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Yeah... wearing tan cargo pants is not the same as putting obvious gun related stickers on a vehicle that costs thousands that may be left alone for hours at a time where some jackwad can do damage to it. Tan cargo pants and walking shoes with a plain old every day shirt isn't going to "alert" anyone to anything.
Now if you're wearing your boots bloused in camo pants with a ridiculous t-shirt, maybe.Comment
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The type of stores I purchase finer clothes from are well above the level of the common department store.
Around town, casual wear is typically Kirkland jeans, running shoes, tucked t-shirt, with light outer garment over top, for hiding/smoothing holster belt, weapon, reload, flashlight, etc.
But I do have a nice Italian suit in TAN...........Comment
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I have been wearing camo cargo shorts for a number of years (they were a gift). The pockets are great for my wallet, tablet, and anything else I may need. My business is mobile and I drive from client to client and carry in product or tools to do my job. Wearing my jeans sucks compared to the cargo shorts.
I also compete with a number of LEO's, and other first responder types who wear cargo pants. The 511 looked good and people liked them. I bought them for range use (they are great to hold AR mags) and also for work. Now I don't wear the jeans unless all the 511 pants are dirty. The material on the 511 is lighter and easier to move in, plus I don't have to take my wallet out of my back pocket to drive. I looked at the 511 shorts, but the cargo pockets don't seem as deep. Making shorts out of the pants is a good idea.
I don't give too much of a crap about what others think. No one has asked if I was a LEO, and the pants look more professional than jeans. A lot of retail uniforms seem to consist of tan colored pants as well.He who dies with the most tools/toys wins
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What agency and the particulars, please?
I wear mine all the time. Great for ranch work. Run into local, county and CHP all the time for years and not so much as a word beyond "hello".
Shoot a lot of competitions where they are commonly worn even by those who normally shop at "well above the level of the common department store", and nobody, repeat, nobody changes.
An over-wrought concern, imo. Since Sandy Hook so many have gone under the rocks, as if the shooting sports are something to be ashamed of.Last edited by uhlan1; 05-16-2015, 11:14 AM."Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo MachiavelliComment
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I've been wearing cargo pants for decades before they were considered "tactical." I chose them because I love all the pockets for stowage. They're incredibly handy when working or playing. I'm sorry so many of you are anti-dress-this-way-or-that-way. I say live and let live.
Walmart and Target sell Wrangler cargo pants and shorts that are really good for really cheap. I use them most of the time. But when I know I need to move in awkward positions or get down low - whether when working or leisure - I prefer the 5.11 Stryke pants because of the stretch material which allows excellent movement. Try moving in jeans like that. Ain't gonna happen.
Another great option is the "Kuhl" brand. You can find them at outdoor stores like REI. LA Police Gear even carries the brand now. Kuhl basically took the tactical pants and shorts and made them look more stylish. Kuhl, like me, loved the utility of all those pockets and admired the durability. So they cleaned it up a little and voila! They have a full range of products and materials from heavy brushed canvas to poly stretch.
So for those of you that can't stand being seen in the "tactical" / "cargo" look, get used to it. When non-tactical fashion companies are copying the look, it's in style."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry GoldwaterComment
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August, 2002.
Airport Police, LAX.
On Century boulevard, there exists (still there) a Karl' Jr. restaurant. I had left our ranch in Kern County to pick up family who were arriving at the airport, and deliver them to their home in the SFV. Having heard about more than one incident involving folks who posess firearms on airport property, who are not ticketed passengers, I elected to leave my sidearm and valid CCW permit back at home. Having never been questioned before, and having carried all over the state for many years, I thought "what are the chances of some encounter with the locals that would be anything but polite and courteous, as had been in the past?". Likely zero, or so I thought. But I left it at home anyways, thinking I might actually need to go into the terminal, as one of the elderly family members needed special accommodations for transportation. That is why I was there in the first place.
While waiting for the delayed flight to arrive, I stopped at the Karl's to get something to drink. I was wearing an old, worn (but clean) pair of 511 cotton pants (olive), boots, and an over shirt covering my flashlight (SureFire 6P), and glove pouch. I was otherwise clean shaven, fresh crew-cut, sunglasses, wallet in left cargo pocket, quietly waiting behind a group of tourists. Thirty-eitght yrs old at the time and very fit. After filling my drink cup, a policeman from the airport stepped over from a table he had occupied with another officer, and said "Hello their sir; I've never seen you around here before; are you traveling through the LAX airport?" He seemed friendly. I said "No, just going to pick up some passengers at the terminal down the street". He then said "Well, that's good, but I must ask you if you are carrying any weapons?" For an instant my mind was reeling. I replied "no sir, I'm not, why do you ask?" His partner was now to my side, making me totally uncomfortable. "We provide service not only in the airport, but around it as well, and sometimes we see things that get our attention, and we noticed you". After a few more minutes of conversation about who I was, where going, where I came from, etc., they seemed satisfied, and went on their way. I was sweating through that, but comforted that I left my firearm at home that time. I am very sure the clothing I was wearing was what got their attention, not any behavior. From then on I go very low-profile.
Of course you are welcome to your opinions, and so am I.Comment
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Fascinating. And you are certain it was the pants.....how?August, 2002.
Airport Police, LAX.
On Century boulevard, there exists (still there) a Karl' Jr. restaurant. I had left our ranch in Kern County to pick up family who were arriving at the airport, and deliver them to their home in the SFV. Having heard about more than one incident involving folks who posess firearms on airport property, who are not ticketed passengers, I elected to leave my sidearm and valid CCW permit back at home. Having never been questioned before, and having carried all over the state for many years, I thought "what are the chances of some encounter with the locals that would be anything but polite and courteous, as had been in the past?". Likely zero, or so I thought. But I left it at home anyways, thinking I might actually need to go into the terminal, as one of the elderly family members needed special accommodations for transportation. That is why I was there in the first place.
While waiting for the delayed flight to arrive, I stopped at the Karl's to get something to drink. I was wearing an old, worn (but clean) pair of 511 cotton pants (olive), boots, and an over shirt covering my flashlight (SureFire 6P), and glove pouch. I was otherwise clean shaven, fresh crew-cut, sunglasses, wallet in left cargo pocket, quietly waiting behind a group of tourists. Thirty-eitght yrs old at the time and very fit. After filling my drink cup, a policeman from the airport stepped over from a table he had occupied with another officer, and said "Hello their sir; I've never seen you around here before; are you traveling through the LAX airport?" He seemed friendly. I said "No, just going to pick up some passengers at the terminal down the street". He then said "Well, that's good, but I must ask you if you are carrying any weapons?" For an instant my mind was reeling. I replied "no sir, I'm not, why do you ask?" His partner was now to my side, making me totally uncomfortable. "We provide service not only in the airport, but around it as well, and sometimes we see things that get our attention, and we noticed you". After a few more minutes of conversation about who I was, where going, where I came from, etc., they seemed satisfied, and went on their way. I was sweating through that, but comforted that I left my firearm at home that time. I am very sure the clothing I was wearing was what got their attention, not any behavior. From then on I go very low-profile.
Of course you are welcome to your opinions, and so am I.
"..and very fit."
Maybe it was the visible abs.
"I thought "what are the chances of some encounter with the locals that would be anything but polite and courteous, as had been in the past?". Likely zero, or so I thought. "
Do you often have such thoughts?
I've never been in a Carl's Jr by an airport in tactical style pants, but I'm often in actual airports wearing them. They are my choice for flights. Carry lots of schwag and snackeroos for the long flights. Plus, they are wedgie proof. Ever give yourself a wedgie in one of those tight middle seats in a pair of jeans? Not fun.
Just recently out of SJC or SFO, Newark, Charlotte, O'Hare (I hate O'Hare). Atlanta (hate that one too), Dallas, Phoenix, Newark, LA and St. Louis.
Nada, zip, zilch.
Talked to a very nice highway patrolman the other night in Starbucks. He didn't seem to care either
In fact, no one cares what pants you are wearing. Furthermore, we're not the guys street cops are worried about, ask any cop on these boards."Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo MachiavelliComment
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