Striker fired handguns in self defense

[Spyder]

I hope the first part was a joke also. A thumb directly behind the slide is going to equal a dislocated thumb after you pull the trigger.

Ever tried it? Obviously you haven't with a Glock, because you're simply wrong.

[Zombie13]

I hope the first part was a joke also. A thumb directly behind the slide is going to equal a dislocated thumb after you pull the trigger.

No it wont.

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[Jimi Jah]

If someone grabs your hammer-fired handgun and manages to block the hammer from dropping, that won't happen with a striker fired handgun.

[Decoligny]

There are DAO and SA/DA semiautos out there for sure. But my point is overwhelmingly (including semiauto rifles even) most semiauto designs are SA.



Exactly.. no offense but you were uniformed and made what amounts to a troll thread with the words "Huge flaw" in the title...

Was it a uniform like this?

[billofrights]

If someone grabs your firearm and you are struggling for it, you're going to have a major problem regardless of what pistol you have.

[JGalt]

have you fired a glock? just push the slide forward with your thumb (or palm, or whatever). no need to rack the slide all the way back.

[Merc1138]

Well apparantly it is not a debate at all. Unless you want to make it a semi-auto vs. revolver debate instead.

Why does it have to be semi-auto "vs." revolver? Get a semi-auto revolver. Yes, they exist.

[desertjunkie760]

I hope the first part was a joke also. A thumb directly behind the slide is going to equal a dislocated thumb after you pull the trigger.

No, I just like getting on the internet and posting things that have not been tested or proven. With that said, in a defensive situation it is life or death. The rules are there are no rules. You do everything you can to survive. Especially when the situation has escalated to someone trying to grab your firearm. I would take a dislocated finger over dying any day. (Even though it won't dislocate your finger)

[CessnaDriver]

If someone grabs your firearm and you are struggling for it, you're going to have a major problem regardless of what pistol you have.

I'm thinking pretty rare too. Anyone know of any CCW events where
it came down to a struggle for control of the firearm?
I only know of LEO stories.

[.45 ACP]

That's why I carry a .357 snubby. The Mike Browns of the world can grab all they want, every bullet one by one

[Creampuff]

Doesn't the Sig 320 have restrike ability?

[Merc1138]

I'm thinking pretty rare too. Anyone know of any CCW events where
it came down to a struggle for control of the firearm?
I only know of LEO stories.

It's not necessarily a problem of just struggling for the firearm itself, if you can't get the thing clear when in a struggle you might run into problems. Possibly the slide being knocked out of battery, possibly the slide failing to cycle completely due to bumping something while firing and causing a malfunction.

[CessnaDriver]

It's not necessarily a problem of just struggling for the firearm itself, if you can't get the thing clear when in a struggle you might run into problems. Possibly the slide being knocked out of battery, possibly the slide failing to cycle completely due to bumping something while firing and causing a malfunction.

Well I guess it's really just about the usual... being aware and practice for the tools we choose. I have a hard time calling it a "flaw".
Advantages and disadvantages will always be the case with differing designs.

[skyking13]

In 1975 Squeeky Frome a deciple of Charlie Manson made an attempt on the life of Presidential Gerald Ford in Sacramento, Ca. One of the Secret Service agents assigned to his protection detail intercepted her within a few feet of the president. Her weapon, a 1911 was grabbed by the agent who was trained to grab such a weapon by inserting the web of skin between his thumb and fingers between the hammer and slide. The weapon did not fire as she had not chambered a round.

[CessnaDriver]

In 1975 Squeeky Frome a deciple of Charlie Manson made an attempt on the life of Presidential Gerald Ford in Sacramento, Ca. One of the Secret Service agents assigned to his protection detail intercepted her within a few feet of the president. Her weapon, a 1911 was grabbed by the agent who was trained to grab such a weapon by inserting the web of skin between his thumb and fingers between the hammer and slide. The weapon did not fire as she had not chambered a round.

Makes for a good point, a reminder to know how different firearms work, such that it might be the other way around too.