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  • #31
    Merc1138
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19742

    Originally posted by CessnaDriver
    Well I guess it's really just about the usual... being aware and practice for the tools we choose. I have a hard time calling it a "flaw".
    Advantages and disadvantages will always be the case with differing designs.
    Oh yeah, it's definitely not a "flaw"(the thread title is laughable). Limitation would be a more appropriate word to use.

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    • #32
      billofrights
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2012
      • 2343

      Originally posted by creampuff
      Doesn't the Sig 320 have restrike ability?
      Yep, it sure does.

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      • #33
        tophatjones
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1539

        Whether the gun is hammer or striker fired, the disconnector separates the trigger mechanism from the release mechanism (e.g. sear) when the slide is out of battery. This is a good safety feature that prevents out of battery kabooms. Unfortunately, not all disconnector designs are equally effective, some activate at a larger distance than others (larger margin for out of battery firing.)

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        • #34
          tophatjones
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 1539

          Originally posted by Jimi Jah
          If someone grabs your hammer-fired handgun and manages to block the hammer from dropping, that won't happen with a striker fired handgun.
          While theoretically true, who would try for that tiny hammer when they could just grab the whole slide and activate the disconnector?

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          • #35
            not-fishing
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 2270

            This is why you learn to shoot from retention.

            Spreading the WORD according to COLT. and Smith, Wesson, Ruger, HK, Sig, High Standard, Browning

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            • #36
              Flyin Brian
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Oct 2009
              • 3395

              I was cringing while he was shooting the revolver. With the shooter's index finger up by the crane it looked like he wasn't going to need to tissue paper to show what happens!!

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              • #37
                arrix
                Veteran Member
                • May 2012
                • 3969

                I suppose the mag release is a huge design flaw too?
                There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.

                -Walt Whitman

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                • #38
                  TKM
                  Onward through the fog!
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 10657

                  Originally posted by arrix
                  I suppose the mag release is a huge design flaw too?
                  Let's face facts here. In OPs opinion everything between the front sight and the lanyard loop is as useful as the little red string in the Bandaids.
                  It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                  • #39
                    TeddyBallgame
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 5732

                    NOBODY's grabbing my carry gun...it does go through holsters rather quickly though




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                    • #40
                      Twystd1
                      Superfluous
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2692

                      The heading of this link is terribly misleading.

                      That is all.

                      -T

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                      • #41
                        mif_slim
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 10089

                        I was holding my breath when the guy shooting the revolver had his finger pointed forward past the cylinder gap. Haha.
                        Originally posted by Gottmituns
                        It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                        • #42
                          Jimi Jah
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 18704

                          Originally posted by tophatjones
                          While theoretically true, who would try for that tiny hammer when they could just grab the whole slide and activate the disconnector?
                          How about that guy that stopped Squeaky? LEO's are trained to do that and it wouldn't work with a striker.

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                          • #43
                            oddjob
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2397

                            Wilson did have the Sig 229. If you push the decocker down on the gun and pull the trigger the gun does not fire. Just goes "click" as stated.

                            Remember when/if you are "confronted" by a suspect(s) its probably going to be real close and without warning. There will be a firearm withing the suspect's reach even if he/she doesn't have one and thats yours. If your dealing with a semi-auto platform just assume its going to fire while wrestling with it and the suspect. Just grab the slide and point it away from you. You won't have time to do anything else.
                            Last edited by oddjob; 03-22-2015, 12:14 PM.

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                            • #44
                              tophatjones
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1539

                              Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                              How about that guy that stopped Squeaky? LEO's are trained to do that and it wouldn't work with a striker.
                              She had a 1911 in condition 3. She thumb cocked the hammer and pulled the trigger on an empty chamber. Later she claimed that she had emptied her chamber on purpose, although we know racking the slide just chambers the next round. If she had it in condition 1 and could aim, Ford would have been shot, SS agent or not.

                              LEO are trained to try this with revolvers with external hammers, but for pistols they are taught to pull the slide back. It would be illogical to train for the move with smaller % of success (hammer) over the one with larger % of success (slide).

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                              • #45
                                Springfield45
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 2426

                                Originally posted by Flyin Brian
                                I was cringing while he was shooting the revolver. With the shooter's index finger up by the crane it looked like he wasn't going to need to tissue paper to show what happens!!

                                Originally posted by mif_slim
                                I was holding my breath when the guy shooting the revolver had his finger pointed forward past the cylinder gap. Haha.
                                All the shooter would get is some burnt powder on his finger. I do this all the time. His finger is not exposed because the frame and cylinder pin is between him and the forcing cone. Put your hand were the paper is and you will bleed from direct gases and bullet shavings.

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