New Covid strain coming, mutated 32 times, possible resistant to any vaccine

[Huntsprig]

[Sierra57]

I think it's entirely possible, likely in fact, that various "vaccines" are new virus mutations.

Since I took one biology class in college and nothing else in a related field, he gave me the short version-

Those who are vaccinated and later catch the virus are mutating the virus in new directions.

[OleCuss]

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Those who are vaccinated and later catch the virus are mutating the virus in new directions.

It really doesn't work that way.

One could argue that the use of the vaccines could be selecting out the new variants but that is a different thing. But the same would be true for those who have developed immunity by getting Covid-19.

But since the immunity isn't really all that great it's a little iffy.

These things just tend to mutate. And the successful mutations tend to be better at spreading and worse at killing.

South African sources are saying that the FJB variant is only causing mild disease as best they can tell at this time. That fits with the expected (but not guaranteed) direction one would expect from mutations subject to selection.

People also need to remember that Covid-19 is not the first scary SARS virus we ran into. Back in the 2002-2004 time frame we had the SARS-CoV-1. Exactly why the SARS-CoV-1 disappeared is not clear. Arguably isolation and contact tracing helped to limit the problem but part of the equation may be that people rapidly became very ill and were thus relatively easily identified and isolated. The mortality was something like 10% IIRC. So a pretty lethal virus just kinda disappeared.

I really suspect that the new variant really won't be a big deal. Only time will tell, but if it were highly lethal we'd probably already know that.

[LazyJ]

It really doesn't work that way.

One could argue that the use of the vaccines could be selecting out the new variants but that is a different thing. But the same would be true for those who have developed immunity by getting Covid-19.

But since the immunity isn't really all that great it's a little iffy.

These things just tend to mutate. And the successful mutations tend to be better at spreading and worse at killing.

South African sources are saying that the FJB variant is only causing mild disease as best they can tell at this time. That fits with the expected (but not guaranteed) direction one would expect from mutations subject to selection.

People also need to remember that Covid-19 is not the first scary SARS virus we ran into. Back in the 2002-2004 time frame we had the SARS-CoV-1. Exactly why the SARS-CoV-1 disappeared is not clear. Arguably isolation and contact tracing helped to limit the problem but part of the equation may be that people rapidly became very ill and were thus relatively easily identified and isolated. The mortality was something like 10% IIRC. So a pretty lethal virus just kinda disappeared.

I really suspect that the new variant really won't be a big deal. Only time will tell, but if it were highly lethal we'd probably already know that.

please don't bring any commonsense to this thread and ruin it for us

[SPUTTER]

The "variant" story is a lie. They need a story to explain the mass deaths that they know are coming. How are they going to explain the rising cancer rates? Variant? Lol

[sigfan91]

Oh yeah, did you guys hear? This new "moronic" variant is hard to detect and causes "false negatives" in existing tests.

[Caligula36]

Just in time for the midterm elections.

[sigfan91]

Just in time for the midterm elections.

Gotta keep the people inside and ballots in the mail.

[WingDings]

Ohh god, oh no, oh please no, nonononononono!!! LOCK DOWN THE COUNTRY, SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMY, CANCEL SCHOOLS, PREP THE ICUs, CALL UP RAMBO

It causes a SLIGHT COUGH

[Paul_R]

[Sousuke]

The two big things I’ve taken from the info out thus far is:

A. It appears to have mutated in an immune compromised person (hiv). This is the third major variant to occur this way.

B. It looks like based on reports from SA it may have a lower mortality rate than previous variants.