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  • OleCuss
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2009
    • 8363

    Originally posted by turbolxstang
    I'm scared for my children, this might be a good time to get them the vax
    If you are serious? That'd be your decision but I've not seen data which convinced me that giving the vaccine to the typically healthy child is a good idea. Maybe I've just not seen the right stuff?

    But as it stands right now I don't think the FJB variant is a particularly good reason to change one's course. Maybe when we've got a better idea of how it functions, but not right now.
    CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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    • turbolxstang
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2020
      • 675

      Originally posted by OleCuss
      If you are serious? That'd be your decision but I've not seen data which convinced me that giving the vaccine to the typically healthy child is a good idea. Maybe I've just not seen the right stuff?

      But as it stands right now I don't think the FJB variant is a particularly good reason to change one's course. Maybe when we've got a better idea of how it functions, but not right now.
      I'm being sarcastic

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      • stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        Originally posted by elSquid
        When a vaccinated person is infected for real their immune system will eventually be targeting various epitopes on the whole virus ( though the initial response would be looking for the epitopes seen on the spike protein created by the vax ), no reason to believe that it would be restricted. Why would it?
        The problem is it was revealed last month that vaccinated individuals who get infected are producing much lower levels of N protein antibodies compared to the unvaccinated. Testing for N protein antibodies was expected to be a good way to test the vaccinated if they had actually gotten infected with the virus afterwards, but they kept getting confusing results of not finding them in confirmed covid breakthrough cases.

        There were recommendations made to increase the sensitivity of testing for N protein antibodies in the vaccinated, because they are usually either nonexistent or at such low levels that they weren't being detected otherwise. The vaccinated aren't producing a normal unvaccinated immune response to the virus, and they don't know why. There were several studies and articles on this topic late October.
        Last edited by stix213; 11-27-2021, 2:12 AM.

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        • a1fabweld
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4615

          Zero
          Fawks
          Given
          Liberals could fk up an anvil

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          • heidad01
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 4902

            Originally posted by a.tinkerer
            Botswana?

            Racist
            China released the original covid virus purposly. Now, they were releasing another virus and decided to start it in Botswana.

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            • nedro
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 4130

              Resistant to any vaccine?
              So nothing has changed. OK.

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              • theLBC
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2017
                • 6601

                so tired of hearing vaccine vaccine vaccine....

                the "vaccines" most get don't fight the virus the way normal vaccines work.
                they don't cause your body to make virus specific antibodies.
                they fool your body into making a part of the original virus strain (the bad part).
                Last edited by theLBC; 11-27-2021, 8:48 AM.

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                • Deadon
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 9975

                  This mutation was reported in HK on the 11th of November. This chit is already here. I'd bet money on it.
                  How would they even know? You go for a test and the same test is used for this. It doesn't go to a lab to see what strain it is. They pull random samples but if it's new what's the odds it would show up. The only reason it was found in HK is because people from South Africa were in quarantine and were tested. This is why it was first found to have spread there.
                  Lions not sheep.

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                  • sd_shooter
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 13564

                    Cases cases cases.

                    If the media would shut up no one would even know anything was amiss. It would be "flu season."

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                    • theLBC
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 6601

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                      • Sierra57
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 5140

                        Originally posted by theLBC
                        so tired of hearing vaccine vaccine vaccine....

                        the "vaccines" most get don't fight the virus the way normal vaccines work.
                        they don't cause your body to make virus specific antibodies.
                        they fool your body into making a part of the original virus strain (the bad part).
                        I'm tired of the clowns who use the contradictory terms "The vaccine will keep you SAFE!" and "The vaccine was never meant to keep you from getting the virus!" practically in the same breath.
                        ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                        * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                        * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                        * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                        * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                        • Sierra57
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 5140

                          My buddy who has a background in public health and epidemiology feels that the vaccines are adding to new virus mutations.
                          ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                          * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                          * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                          * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                          * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                          • Paul_R
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2847

                            Originally posted by Sierra57
                            My buddy who has a background in public health and epidemiology feels that the vaccines are adding to new virus mutations.
                            I think it's entirely possible, likely in fact, that various "vaccines" are new virus mutations.
                            Fear is a social disease

                            Got a jury summons? Know your rights! http://fija.org/

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                            • MJB
                              CGSSA Associate
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5925

                              Originally posted by Paul_R
                              I think it's entirely possible, likely in fact, that various "vaccines" are new virus mutations.
                              Yep
                              Don't f with mother nature she always has the last word or breathe
                              One life so don't blow it......Always die with your boots on!

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                              • elSquid
                                In Memoriam
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 11844

                                Originally posted by stix213
                                The problem is it was revealed last month that vaccinated individuals who get infected are producing much lower levels of N protein antibodies compared to the unvaccinated. Testing for N protein antibodies was expected to be a good way to test the vaccinated if they had actually gotten infected with the virus afterwards, but they kept getting confusing results of not finding them in confirmed covid breakthrough cases.

                                There were recommendations made to increase the sensitivity of testing for N protein antibodies in the vaccinated, because they are usually either nonexistent or at such low levels that they weren't being detected otherwise. The vaccinated aren't producing a normal unvaccinated immune response to the virus, and they don't know why. There were several studies and articles on this topic late October.
                                New research from Karolinska Institutet and Karolinska University Hospital in Sweden shows that many people with mild or asymptomatic COVID-19 demonstrate T-cell-mediated immunity to the new coronavirus, even if they have not tested positively for antibodies.


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