White House Didn't Expect Such 'Vehement Opposition' To Trump-Approved Vaccine

[TrappedinCalifornia]

The ignorance and hypocrisy of the left is infinite

The problem is that they don't see it as ignorance or hypocrisy. Just like Afghanistan...

16 August...

31 August...

They see it as 'messaging.' Their view is that so long as you present it correctly, that will be the accepted reality as an axiom in politics is... perception is reality. Such was encapsulated by Biden himself when he declared that they choose Truth over facts.



If the "we were surprised" isn't getting you where you want, alter the message to: "We had a plan and had anticipated such a contingency, but we were hamstrung by the previous Administration."

It's precisely the same thing here. We tend to encapsulate it with: "Are you going to believe what we tell you or are you going to believe your own, lying eyes?" Unfortunately, there are far too many today who choose to believe what they're told.

[SPUTTER]

Very few people believe the Biden Administration. We are literally being ruled by the wizard of oz. MSM and social media just give you the illusion these people have support from the people. They don't and it was obvious during the election campaign. It's all smoke and mirrors.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Very few people believe the Biden Administration. We are literally being ruled by the wizard of oz. MSM and social media just give you the illusion these people have support from the people. They don't and it was obvious during the election campaign. It's all smoke and mirrors.

That's a bit of an exaggeration. A lot of it depends on the issue and it would be more accurate to say that a majority no longer have confidence in the Biden Administration on a number of key issues. In fact, as of July, it might even be more accurate to state that a majority don't believe in Biden himself, as distinct from his Administration...

Majority believes Biden officials, not the president, are secretly running the country: Poll

...Fifty-seven percent of respondents to a Convention of States Action and Trafalgar Group poll said the president is not fully executing the duties of his office. Thirty-six percent said they were confident that he was directing all policy and agenda matters...

But, use of the term 'majority' or phrases such as "very few people" can be misleading, particularly as there is a stark, partisan divide...

...nearly 59% of Democratic voters said they thought Biden was in charge of the administration. Thirty-two percent said he was not in charge.

Eighty-four percent of Republican voters said they did not believe Biden was fully executing the duties of his office. Only 11% of GOP voters believe he is directing all policy and agenda matters.

Fifty-eight percent of independent voters said they did not believe Biden was fully executing the duties of his office, while 36% disagreed...

A third or more is not "very few people" and, again, that is directed at Biden, not necessarily his Administration. Insofar as how many believe the messaging coming from the Administration, I'm not sure you're far wrong, but that wasn't necessarily the criterion which got him into Office...

More Americans Happy About Trump Loss Than Biden Win

Such would appear consistent with the actual vote: Biden 51.3%, Trump 46.9%.

Thus, in a very real sense, a majority of Biden voters weren't voting for Biden so much as they were voting against Trump. I suspect that, much like with Obama, even with... Biden Begins Presidency With Positive Ratings; Trump Departs With Lowest-Ever Job Mark... it was more about hope than reality. How could it be otherwise in that you almost never saw Biden during the campaign and given his documented history, it would be difficult to fathom that a majority believed or believed in Biden personally. More to the point, I'm not sure there was ever much belief he could do some things at all... Biden Viewed Positively on Many Issues, but Public Is Less Confident He Can Unify Country.

What they are being forced to confront at this point is what Gates and Obama infamously warned about with regard to Biden. There is an 'erosion of trust' that even the Administration can compensate and 'do the right thing,' as they see it. Frankly, such was an accusation also made in relation to Trump in terms of his Administration and Republicans keeping him reined in. Within that context, you need to be cautious given that Biden's "dismal approval rating plummet" puts him at 43% approval, a number which is higher than Trump's when he left office and even higher than Trump's overall average throughout his Presidency.

You can declare all polls to be fake, that it's just smoke & mirrors, etc., but those are the metrics people have to work with.

In short, it's not that "very few people believe" in that such wasn't necessarily the criterion. It's that their hopes are not necessarily coming to fruition and, frankly, many of those 'hopes' were unrealistic to begin with. It's something we saw with Obama and it was something we saw from many on the Right with Trump. At the moment, it's also something which you may not be able to establish empirically as true or, at least, may not be able to establish, beyond partisan groupings, is 'worse' than Trump.

[norcalAF]

It's not about the shot, it's about the government mandating the shot. That's the issue.

People intuitively understand that when the government mandates everyone take a new gene therapy treatment with marginal testing, significant side effects (including death) and questionable efficacy, to ward off a disease with a 99% survival rate, something is dangerously wrong.

Yep, my wife, who leans a bit liberal on a few things, is vehemently against the shot. She told me don't people know how slippery this slope is and that the US government has performed sterilizations on certain groups in the past? Autonomy over one's own body is the most basic and essential of rights

[SPUTTER]

Come on, Biden's campaign events were a joke with brand new jeeps and about 20 of his staffers as the "crowd". What occurred on election night was a highly organized stealing of an election, completely obvious to anyone watching that night. The stories the media writes are just lies to obfuscate the truth.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

...Autonomy over one's own body is the most basic and essential of rights

Be careful. You appear to be agreeing with the U.N. Population Fund... Bodily autonomy: Busting 7 myths that undermine individual rights and freedoms

...Bodily autonomy is about the right to make decisions over one’s own life and future. It is about being empowered to make informed choices. These are universal values...

Not only is bodily autonomy a human right, it is the foundation upon which other human rights are built...

Collective decision-making is common across cultures, societies and governments. But group decisions cannot circumscribe the rights of individuals...

No one has the right to violate the rights, autonomy or bodily integrity of anyone else...

Rights are for everyone, full stop. That includes bodily autonomy...

...Most traditions and religions create space for individuals to explore their own conscience on such deeply personal matters as how to protect their health, whether to start a family and how to chart their future...

...But bodily autonomy does not simply affect women. Every individual should be empowered to claim their bodily autonomy...

Now, why would a Democrat administration go directly against the U.N. Population Fund? Oh, wait...

...The report examines data on women’s decision-making power and on laws supportive of sexual and reproductive health and rights. Tragically, only 55 per cent of women have bodily autonomy, according to measurements of their ablity to make their own decisions on issues relating to health care, contraception and whether to have sex...

As I noted on another thread a few days ago, the Left has long maintained that 'abortion' (a significant aspect, they claim, of women's health and bodily autonomy) and 'vaccines' are entirely separate issues.

From September 2019, before COVID was even a term... Opinion: No, the abortion debate isn’t anything like the vaccine debate

They argue that abortion only affects the woman and no one else as they don't consider the fetus to be a person. Whereas, they see vaccination as risking their lives if you don't get it and, thus, you will work/sacrifice to protect them. To us, it's a distinction without a difference as we hold differing views on the fetus and whom is responsible for who's safety.

In other words, the Left, including many Democrats, have an alternate view of the world and your bodily autonomy is not as sacrosanct as you might think if it potentially impacts them. Whereas, 'our side' argues... BODILY AUTONOMY AND “MY BODY, MY CHOICE”...

...Having autonomy over one’s body is an integral part of being a free person. Even the U.S. Constitution outlines our ability to self-govern things involving ourselves as individuals. There are several amendments that can help decipher questions about our right to bodily autonomy...

When seeking clarification on autonomy issues, do we ask the wolf, who thinks it’s his right to eat the sheep, or the sheep who’s at risk of being eaten? Make no mistake; neither a preborn child nor an abortion-minded woman is, in any way, equivalent to a prowling wolf. However, Lincoln’s illustration highlights the importance of weighing who stands to lose the most when limiting a person’s liberties...

How quaint. The Constitution. An individual's liberties. We were told that it's not about individual freedom or personal choice.

Who told us that? Why, the so-called Leader of the Free World. You know. The guy who said, as per one of the articles linked in the OP...

“Scientific breakthroughs don’t care about calendars any more than the virus does,” he said. “They certainly don’t adhere to election cycles. And their timing and their approval and their distribution should never, ever be distorted by political considerations. It should be determined by science and safety alone.”...

Of course, now, according to Politico... Tensions mount between CDC and Biden health team over boosters. Gee. Why would that be?

...Other CDC officials working on the pandemic response are equally exasperated by the situation and what they see as unrealistic expectations from the White House as it tries to shore up public opinion.

“Science takes time,” a CDC official said. “I don’t know how many times we have to say this.”

One senior administration official said the Biden administration’s public pledge to let science lead was faltering behind the scenes. “The CDC is getting out what it can when it can,” the official said...

Walensky has fiercely defended the CDC throughout the last several weeks, telling White House officials who have pledged for months to follow the science that the late September booster target was likely too ambitious, and that her agency had not yet completed studies that would help provide the rationale for the shots. The CDC and FDA also were still waiting for booster data from vaccine-makers Moderna and Johnson & Johnson.

Other CDC officials working on the pandemic response are equally exasperated by the situation and what they see as unrealistic expectations from the White House as it tries to shore up public opinion.

“Science takes time,” a CDC official said. “I don’t know how many times we have to say this.”

One senior administration official said the Biden administration’s public pledge to let science lead was faltering behind the scenes. “The CDC is getting out what it can when it can,” the official said.

But a second senior administration health official pushed back against the idea that the Sept. 20 booster target was foisted on Walensky. The person said that the federal government's top health leaders agreed to the language and September date before the White House announced the plan in August. The time frame was established based on the FDA’s projections of when it could review specific company data as well as data from manufacturers, that official said.

Some at CDC say the agency needs to change its approach, by working quickly with the White House Covid team to develop policy recommendations during what they describe as one of the most chaotic and critical periods of the pandemic. In addition to the planned booster rollout, the CDC and FDA are poised to consider the use of Covid-19 vaccines for children under 12, a group that has seen more infection and death as the nation has returned to in-person schooling.

But it is the nascent booster plan that has generated the most friction of late. Three senior officials said they were surprised by the White House’s September deadline, arguing that it set the CDC and FDA on a tight timeline to crunch data, publish vaccine efficacy studies and approve or authorize the shots...

Uh... Yeah. As I said yesterday in a post above, the Left sees it as 'messaging.' Their view is that so long as you present it correctly, that will be the accepted reality as an axiom in politics is... perception is reality. Such was encapsulated by Biden himself when he declared that they choose Truth over facts. Evidently, such is at work in relation to CDC. From the same Politico piece...

...In a sign that even the CDC director herself recognizes the agency has repeatedly fallen short on messaging, multiple people with knowledge of the matter said Walensky has recently weighed bringing on new communications staff. The agency's main spokespeople are career employees who predate Walensky's arrival in January...

Senior administration officials working on the pandemic response have grown frustrated with the CDC’s messaging on Covid policies, including masks, over the last several months — and what they see as a sluggish response to crises such as the emergence of the Delta variant. Much of the criticism pointed at the CDC focuses on its data collection and analysis, officials said.


The agency has for years struggled with obtaining accurate disease data from state health departments, and the pandemic strained the country’s public health infrastructure, causing massive delays in reporting and case investigation. That has made it difficult for CDC to gather information on breakthrough infections to inform the administration’s policies around boosters.

The CDC also often publishes its studies in medical journals, but that approach can delay the release of critical information to the public. Walensky has recently taken steps to address the issue, telling CNN this month that the CDC worked with the New England Journal of Medicine to release data about pregnant women and vaccines on its website before it published the findings in the journal.

Okay. I think I get it. It's not about the vaccines/boosters and "their timing and their approval and their distribution should never, ever be distorted by political considerations. It should be determined by science and safety alone” so long as the messaging is crafted 'appropriately.'

What was the last line in the OP? Ah... What part am I supposed to put faith in, what you said then or what you're saying now?

Perhaps, maybe, just maybe, the 'vehement resistance' has to do with inconsistent and contradictory messaging suggesting a political rather than an health agenda?

[Den60]

Well, we were told that the vax would actually prevent the spread of COVID. That was incorrect.

We were told that we would not be forced to get the vax. That was a lie.

The government has silenced opposition and created an "us versus them" atmosphere. That is wrong.

The government is pushing vaccinations for the young and healthy despite being a poor risk versus reward situation.

And the government wonders why many are opposed to taking the vax?

[Wherryj]

Lyin Biden and his team of sociopaths, are experts at denial of all things going south. However, love taking credit for all things going well, they had nothing to do with.

Sure, but in this case you need to understand that Joe learned new information between his initial and current stances.

Initially, he was likely to benefit from turning his opponent's rushed development of a vaccine into a neutral or even a negative for the opponent. After he entered office, he realized that he could use the "emergency" of the virus to trample the human rights of his subjects.

You really can't expect Joe to have realized the potential political upside of the vaccine until after HE was the one to benefit from it. Give the guy a break!

[sigstroker]

Trump was scammed. Everything happened so fast.

He believed the salesman Fauxchi. Probably because scumbags convinced him to.