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  • #16
    71MUSTY
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2014
    • 7029

    Originally posted by bigbossman


    If I get the vaccine, I can still catch the virus and I can still spread the virus.
    If I don't get the vaccine, I can still catch the virus and I can still spread the virus.

    What does getting the vaccine buy me? How does my getting the vaccine protect others?

    SO my post should not have triggered you: Why does it???
    Only slaves don't need guns

    Originally posted by epilepticninja
    Americans vs. Democrats
    We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


    We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


    What doesn't kill me, better run

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    • #17
      theLBC
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2017
      • 6668

      didn't they just extend the emergency approval?

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      • #18
        five.five-six
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2006
        • 34839

        Not really all that afraid of the rona.

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        • #19
          theLBC
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2017
          • 6668

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          • #20
            Timthetwin
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 668

            Originally posted by 71MUSTY
            How long before people who are scared come up with another excuse?
            Who is more fear based, the person who rushes to get a quickly cooked up vaccine, or someone who prefers to wait for a safely proven vaccine and prefers not to have their freedom trampled by being forced to take a shot? YOU seem liked the afraid one! Just because someone's fear is not your fear, does not make it illegitimate. There is nothing fear based about our rights being removed, or the lack of data for these vaccines, those are pure facts at this point.
            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.-Groucho Marx

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            • #21
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19573

              Originally posted by SPUTTER
              The pharmaceutical companies are still immune from lawsuits but I believe an employer that mandates it are on the hook. Anyone that is thinking about taking one of these shots to keep their job better go do a battery of tests and a thorough check up to establish a baseline in case something goes wrong.
              It's fairly clear that the FDA's approval was not based on clinical trials/studies. They just rubber stamped it. It changes nothing for me.
              Nothing gets approved by the FDA without clinical trials. These had the usual 3 phases of clinical trials in 2020. They were just shorter than usual.

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              • #22
                theLBC
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2017
                • 6668

                Originally posted by theLBC
                didn't they just extend the emergency approval?

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                • #23
                  bigbossman
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 11067

                  Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                  SO my post should not have triggered you: Why does it???
                  Asking questions is "triggered"?

                  Troll on, Garth.
                  Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

                  "Give a conservative a pile of bricks and you get a beautiful city. Give a leftist a city and you get a pile of bricks."

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                  • #24
                    71MUSTY
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 7029

                    Originally posted by Timthetwin
                    Who is more fear based, the person who rushes to get a quickly cooked up vaccine, or someone who prefers to wait for a safely proven vaccine and prefers not to have their freedom trampled by being forced to take a shot? YOU seem liked the afraid one! Just because someone's fear is not your fear, does not make it illegitimate. There is nothing fear based about our rights being removed, or the lack of data for these vaccines, those are pure facts at this point.
                    Seems like you are both pretty scared. My post has nothing to do with your rights. I am 100% in favor of choice. Just really tired of all the fear based attempts to sway my opinion. You chose not to get the VAX, Cool, you chose to get the VAX, Cool, your choice. You come on here and give me some fear based, unsupported, internet cooked up reason why you made your choice It makes me think you are reacting out of fear not logic. The approved VAX today is the same experimental Vax of yesterday yet I could show you thousands of posts saying they would not take an experimental VAX. All of those people now need a new reason. Likely they will question the validity of the Approval or some such.

                    But ultimately none of those excuses are what really drives their decision, it is fear (real or imagined, I never specified) so who are they trying to convince?? And why?

                    They don't spend that much bandwidth telling us why they made the other decisions in their life.

                    Why do they feel the need to convince everyone they are right about their choice???
                    Only slaves don't need guns

                    Originally posted by epilepticninja
                    Americans vs. Democrats
                    We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                    We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                    What doesn't kill me, better run

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                    • #25
                      71MUSTY
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 7029

                      Originally posted by bigbossman
                      Asking questions is "triggered"?

                      Troll on, Garth.
                      Sure it is, Why are you asking me questions?? You do not care about my answers. It's your internal need. has nothing to do with me. Why now do you shift to name calling??? Obviously you are more effected by my post then you want to admit.
                      Only slaves don't need guns

                      Originally posted by epilepticninja
                      Americans vs. Democrats
                      We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                      We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                      What doesn't kill me, better run

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                      • #26
                        SanDiego619
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12075

                        Last time I had the flu I felt pretty bad. What is the zinc / zinc lonophore approach? I want to keep whatever I need on hand in case I get the flu again in the future.

                        I never had a flu shot and never will.
                        Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                        • #27
                          Dan_Eastvale
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 10176

                          I've never had flu so never flu shots. I know it can put people in bed a few days.

                          I am also confident I'll not catch COVID.

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                          • #28
                            blkoutdb
                            Member
                            • Nov 2019
                            • 207

                            Didn't take long for the goal posts to move for some did it. Of course even Stevie wonder saw that coming

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                            • #29
                              SPUTTER
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 7504

                              Originally posted by theLBC
                              EUA extended for 12-16, approved 16+

                              Last edited by SPUTTER; 08-23-2021, 10:33 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Libertarian777
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 576

                                FDA approval wasn't my blocking point, long term RCT was, which is currently impossible since the control group was vaccinated.

                                FDA says they have 6 months of data (for long term use) (12k of 20k), but, SHOCKER, no mention of gold standard control group at 6 months.

                                While a lot of the stuff Alex Berenson posts is shock and misleading, he does ask a very good question.
                                If it's approved, what is the approved dosage? 2 shots? 3 shots? What's the max?

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