Since the jab is FDA approved...

[BamBam-31]

Seems like you are both pretty scared. My post has nothing to do with your rights. I am 100% in favor of choice. Just really tired of all the fear based attempts to sway my opinion. You chose not to get the VAX, Cool, you chose to get the VAX, Cool, your choice. You come on here and give me some fear based, unsupported, internet cooked up reason why you made your choice It makes me think you are reacting out of fear not logic. The approved VAX today is the same experimental Vax of yesterday yet I could show you thousands of posts saying they would not take an experimental VAX. All of those people now need a new reason. Likely they will question the validity of the Approval or some such.

But ultimately none of those excuses are what really drives their decision, it is fear (real or imagined, I never specified) so who are they trying to convince?? And why?

They don't spend that much bandwidth telling us why they made the other decisions in their life.

Why do they feel the need to convince everyone they are right about their choice???

This reeks of projection. Sorry. You usually have better posts. And you still haven't answered bigbossman's questions (unless vaccines can change questions into answers as well).

[Den60]

SO my post should not have triggered you: Why does it???

I would say calling people "scared" is triggering, and you knew that when you posted. People can have valid concerns about any medicine or vaccine they put into their body. They have the right to demand full disclosure for any medical treatment so they can weigh the "risk versus reward" in order to make an informed decision. They should also be allowed the choice to either proceed with or refuse such treatment without fear of retaliation. What is wrong about that? The developers of these vaccines have not been transparent during the development of these vaccines and they have worked with government, media and social media to censor dissent. Why is that? The Pfizer vaccine's efficacy has been greatly overstated and government is doing everything in its power to make sure the shot is mandatory. None of this instills confidence in me with regards to these vaccines, especially given the fact that vaccinated people can still catch and spread the disease.

[bigbossman]

Sure it is, Why are you asking me questions?? You do not care about my answers. It's your internal need. has nothing to do with me. Why now do you shift to name calling??? Obviously you are more effected by my post then you want to admit.

Projection and diversion.

Why are you trolling?

[stix213]

I read that Pfizer included just 6 months of phase 3 trial data in their submission. Convenient since it appears the effectiveness of Pfizer seems to drop off a cliff after 6 months.

It isn't normal for a vaccine to be approved with less than a year of data, so it is as I've said, approved for political reasons not safety.

[norcalAF]

Projection and diversion.

Why are you trolling?

it's a side effect of the jab

[stonefly-2]

How long before people who are scared come up with another excuse?

How long does hysterical usually last?

It's been weeks now you're lashing out in panic over what you've done.


Maybe just reconcile that you may have effed up and quit acting like "we" did this to you.

[ibanezfoo]

People scared of a virus with 99.97 survival rate - calling people who aren't affraid of that "scared"

I was going to post the same thing...

I am not scared of it. I'm not not stupid enough to inject myself with garbage I don't need.

[Libertarian777]

Let's see, who seems more afraid?

A person driving around alone wearing two masks and gloves, or a person who says "My immune system will have no problem handling the virus with a 99.97% survival rate"?

speak for yourself! My survival rate is 99.984% not this ridiculous 99.97% you quote.

The vaccine will improve my odds to 99.995%
At the risk of 0.6% of serious adverse side effects.

Nothing gets approved by the FDA without clinical trials. These had the usual 3 phases of clinical trials in 2020. They were just shorter than usual.

Hahaha.
'just shorter than usual' is not a 'minor' issue

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-stroke-vioxx-idUSTRE49C84M20081013

It took EIGHTEEN months to determine the long term use of FDA APPROVED Vioxx increased stroke risk.

People have short memories.
I was prescribed Vioxx after a surgical procedure, so yeah FDA approval doesn't carry much weight with me.

I know the response will be "but Vioxx was used regularly"...aaaand we're giving 3 shots in 8 months...4h shot in Jan next year when the winter season peaks?

Also waiting for the long term control group data... Oh wait that's right, there isn't one.

FDA Approval means drugs are safe and effective and recommended by an expert panel...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/aging/fda-approves-controversial-alzheimer-s-drug-biogen-n1269645

Except when they don't...

[bigbossman]

How long does hysterical usually last?

It's been weeks now you're lashing out in panic over what you've done.


Maybe just reconcile that you may have effed up and quit acting like "we" did this to you.

[sigfan91]

The Military just indicated that they will now require EVERY soldier get
the Covid vaccine. So now expect 16 shots of all kinds of vaccines will be required.

Did we ever find out what "gulf syndrome" was?

[Bukowski]

IT WAS NOT APPROVED!!!

THE EUA WAS EXTENDED

CERTAIN USES APPROVED WITH UPDATED NOTICES / WARNINGS

THAT IS ALL!!!

Pages 2, Pages 12-13 and the Concluding Statement of Page 14 says it all.

=8-(

It was indeed approved and already mandated for nursing home employees in CA, CO, and WA. I believe the deadline is Sept 30th.

[sigfan91]

I seem to have triggered a lot of scared people. NOTE: If your reason for not getting the VAX is not fear based my comment doesn't really apply to you. Why you getting upset?

Oh I am scared, not about the short term effects, but the long term effects.

I don't know what this thing would do in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, or 30 years down the line. No one knows because they're only on the market for mass consumption over the last 9 months.

I prefer to let the poor and the colored people try these out first on a mass scale, find out what the long term side effects are, if any, and then i'll decide whether to get it.

[Bukowski]

Read the actual 13 page letter.

Especially end of page 12 and it's ending on page 13.

=8-|

Believe me I did as did our legal department. We are scrambling to put systems in place for the healthcare worker mandates.

[alpha_romeo_XV]

It is obvious that there are people posting here that have a major political agenda or bought a lot of Pfizer and J&J stock or both. No one would continually rant like that out of altruistic community concern.

[Gundiver]

Not a vaccine