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  • #16
    foxtrotuniformlima
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 3454

    There should be a penalty for posting this fake BS
    Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

    Originally posted by Vin Scully
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    I cannot allow your ignorance, however great, to take precedence over my knowledge, however small.
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    When you reach the plateau, there's always going to be those that try to drag you down. Just keep up the game, collect the scratch, and ignore those who seek to drag you down to their level.
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    • #17
      uzigalil
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1180

      Originally posted by bootstrap
      Another covid myth: the jab is safe for pregnant women.

      Facts:

      - There were no pregnant women participants in the EUA trials.
      - The 12.6% figure being thrown around in the narrative for spontaneous abortions is total data manipulation. The actual number is 82% of women who received the covid jab within 0 - 20 weeks of pregnancy lost their child. Birth defects of the remaining 18% of children who lived are unknown.

      There was a "study" (I use that term loosely, it's more like marketing data) performed on 827 pregnant women to observe the rates of "spontaneous abortion". "Spontaneous abortion" is defined when the baby dies up to 20 weeks after conception. Out of the 827 women, 700 of the women did not receive their first jab until the 3rd trimester.

      104 women who received the jab within the first 20 weeks lost their babies. Instead of comparing 104 to 827, it has to be compared to 127 which gives the actual rate of spontaneous abortions of 82%.

      More info:
      https://thehighwire.com/videos/are-c...-miscarriages/
      hahahahaha, YOUR LINK AND THIS INFO IS BOGUS. you really listen to DEL Bigtree ?

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      • #18
        subscriber
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 929

        I am not for or against the info in the article. However, it appears that that looking at miscarriage rates occurring within first 20 weeks would not show any effect from vaccines injected during the third trimester.

        While this is obvious, some people seem to be overlooking the fact that a treatment (vaccination) can only have an effect, if it precedes the effect being studied. In this study, a large number of vaccinations occured in the third trimester. These cannot possibly have contributed to miscarriage's in the first 20 weeks. Discovering that lack of effect within the 20 week gestation period is not proof of anything, other than that you may be missing the point.

        The attached file is a screen shot of the video pertaining to that section of the presentation, 7 minutes into the video: https://thehighwire.com/videos/are-c...-miscarriages/


        Edited to highlight pertinent section of screen shot with red underline:

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        Last edited by subscriber; 07-03-2021, 12:13 PM.

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        • #19
          kalibeltfeeder
          Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 451

          Originally posted by subscriber
          I am not for or against the info in the article. However, it appears that that looking at miscarriage rates occurring within first 20 weeks would not show any effect from vaccines injected during the third trimester.

          While this is obvious, some people seem to be overlooking the fact that a treatment (vaccination) can only have an effect, if it precedes the effect being studied. In this study, a large number of vaccinations occured in the third trimester. These cannot possibly have contributed to miscarriage's in the first 20 weeks. Discovering that lack of effect within the 20 week gestation period is not proof of anything, other than that you may be missing the point.

          The attached file is a screen shot of the video pertaining to that section of the presentation, 7 minutes into the video: https://thehighwire.com/videos/are-c...-miscarriages/


          They vaccinated more than 127 women in the first trimester though, 1132 women were vaccinated in the first trimester. If 82% of them miscarried than you would have over 900 miscarriages. Which the study shows is not true.
          But I don't come 'round here to meet nice people anyway
          And what the hell am I doing drunk in the middle of the day

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          • #20
            stonefly-2
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 4993

            Originally posted by uzigalil
            hahahahaha, YOUR LINK AND THIS INFO IS BOGUS. you really listen to DEL Bigtree ?

            I pulled up an interview of his with a microbiologist well over a year ago who showed the manipulated elements of the bioweapon,

            that was about the time the Indian study preprint got memory holed.

            What are the attributes you favor most of the truth being obfuscated for a year as people die?

            Del Bigtree has been a rabid antivaxxer for years,
            if you plan to stand in the way of the status reassignment I suspect is coming his way I would keep my head down.

            "I told you so's" incoming.
            What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

            Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

            https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


            I was born under a wandrin star.

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            • #21
              stonefly-2
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 4993

              Originally posted by kalibeltfeeder
              They vaccinated more than 127 women in the first trimester though, 1132 women were vaccinated in the first trimester. If 82% of them miscarried than you would have over 900 miscarriages. Which the study shows is not true.

              There were zero miscarriages or still births in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy.

              we should all go to about 5:13 in the video to fix in our minds just what is being said.
              What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

              Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

              https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


              I was born under a wandrin star.

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              • #22
                stonefly-2
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 4993

                Originally posted by foxtrotuniformlima
                There should be a penalty for posting this fake BS

                There's an "I've been triggered" button you can hit in the upper right.
                What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                I was born under a wandrin star.

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                • #23
                  subscriber
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 929

                  Originally posted by stonefly-2
                  we should all go to about 5:13 in the video to fix in our minds just what is being said.
                  It is much easier to dismiss claims, if the video is just ignored completely. Actually watching it carries the risk of forcing the viewer to challenge their own predetermined conclusions. Can't have that.

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                  • #24
                    kalibeltfeeder
                    Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 451

                    Originally posted by stonefly-2
                    There were zero miscarriages or still births in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy.

                    we should all go to about 5:13 in the video to fix in our minds just what is being said.
                    But I don't come 'round here to meet nice people anyway
                    And what the hell am I doing drunk in the middle of the day

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                    • #25
                      SPUTTER
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7504

                      127 women had the injection in the first/second trimester. 104 out of those had a spontaneous abortion. The study covered 827 women but 700 received the first injection in their third trimester. Also a spontaneous abortion can't occur in the third trimester, technically it's referred to something else. So yes, the interpretation of the data is misleading.
                      Last edited by SPUTTER; 07-03-2021, 11:56 AM.

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                      • #26
                        stonefly-2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 4993


                        Well if you are talking spontaneous abortions and not miscarriages now at least we have corrected that part of your confusion.....carry on.
                        What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                        Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                        https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                        I was born under a wandrin star.

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                        • #27
                          kalibeltfeeder
                          Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 451

                          Originally posted by stonefly-2
                          Well if you are talking spontaneous abortions and not miscarriages now at least we have corrected that part of your confusion.....carry on.
                          A miscarriage is the spontaneous loss of a fetus before the 20th week of pregnancy. Pregnancy losses after the 20th week are called stillbirths. Miscarriage is a naturally occurring event, unlike medicine
                          But I don't come 'round here to meet nice people anyway
                          And what the hell am I doing drunk in the middle of the day

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                          • #28
                            kalibeltfeeder
                            Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 451

                            Originally posted by SPUTTER
                            127 women had the injection in the first/second trimester. 104 out of those had a spontaneous abortion. The study covered 827 women but 700 received the the first injection in their third trimester. Also a spontaneous abortion can't occur in the third trimester, technically it's referred to something else. So yes, the interpretation of the data is misleading.
                            But I don't come 'round here to meet nice people anyway
                            And what the hell am I doing drunk in the middle of the day

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                            • #29
                              stonefly-2
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 4993

                              Originally posted by kalibeltfeeder


                              It may but "is it"? in this particular study?

                              Seems like you now understand the particular statistic being parsed out of this study and are looking to segue.

                              Whether this study obfuscates the data or the OP'S link refines it out is semantics as is when a potato "may" be called a potatoe.
                              What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                              Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                              https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                              I was born under a wandrin star.

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                              • #30
                                SPUTTER
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 7504

                                Where are you getting those numbers? This is the table directly from the study.



                                I should've been clearer, I meant the author of the study is being misleading.
                                Last edited by SPUTTER; 07-16-2021, 7:00 PM.

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