SF mandates all employees get vaxxed

[Ulfhednar]

For the LEO'S that just posted. Do you have fellow officers who feel the same? Are they being vocal? My union is trying to say I'm one of the only ones who is saying no to this. Private sector but similar mandates.

FYI, SCOTUS says public sector union members don't have to stay members to keep working and don't have to pay any dues but they must still represent you. Since they aren't representing you and many are thinking of leaving, this is a great time for as many as possible to resign union membership and stop paying dues.

There was a huge letter that was circulated through a lot of the biggest departments in the City, and from my understanding there were hundreds of Fire, Sheriff, and my fellow members that all signed it and returned it to DHR. I asked for the letter, but have been on vacation, so I have been unable to get it signed in front of witnesses at work. There are quite a few in my assignment who have signed it.

Here is just a couple articles regarding the blowback:

https://www.ktvu.com/news/san-francisco-sheriffs-union-says-deputies-may-quit-over-vaccine-mandate

https://abc7news.com/sf-workers-vaccine-requirement-san-francisco-city-covid-19-vaccination/10943342/

[Ulfhednar]

Don't hang your hat on the EUA issue. They expect Phelony Pfizer to get full approval in the next month.

[Romeo_alpha01]

Have you looked on the SFERS website to see what your retirement account balance is? I just looked and thinking of pulling it out and leaving early, I have already enrolled in the 10-7 Project to see about a career change into real estate. I have 20 years now (25 June 01).

Finally gained access to SFERS, and it seems if SHTF, it might be better for me to resign and terminate employment with the city on my own versus waiting to get terminated and risk losing my pension. Again, I'm planning on moving to another state anyhow, so perhaps collect what I have and start over elsewhere.

You're like my buddy who is also transitioning from LE to Real Estate. Maybe you both have bumped into each other.

[five.five-six]

Here we go fellas:


https://sfdhr.org/new-vaccine-and-fa...city-employeesVAXReporting@SFMTA.com

Immediately after I gave supervision a shrug.

[Foothills]

There is anecdotal evidence that people with auto-immune conditions experience much worse side effects from the mRNA vaccines than average. Have any of you with such conditions spoken with an attorney who specializes in ADA litigation?

One remedy to propose for those with concerning medical conditions is to wait until the Novavax vaccine is available. It has far fewer side effects. They expect to apply for FDA approval in 4th Quarter.

If a new governor is elected they take office 38 days after the election, so October 22nd.

[countonme]

Time to lawyer up.

what kind of lawyer or attorney with one Attain

[Romeo_alpha01]

FINAL WARNING!

Check the Bold part.

Dear Colleagues:

As you are aware, for the health and safety of City and County of San Francisco workers and the public, the city’s Department of Human Resources instituted a policy that all employees need to be fully vaccinated by November 1. In our Board of Directors meeting today, I will share an update on the rate of COVID-19 vaccinations and reporting among our staff. You can watch the board meeting here.

The SFMTA fully supports vaccination, as it has been proven to be the best tool to protect each other against the dangers of COVID-19. Since the vaccines received emergency approval at the end of 2020, we have been encouraging vaccinations and providing opportunities to get vaccinated on work time.  

Our various efforts included hosting pop-up vaccination events at our facilities and online all-staff meetings with public health experts, distributing Q and A fliers, creating posters about COVID vaccine myths and facts, sharing all-staff emails, posting video appeals, and conducting one-on-one outreach.

Unfortunately, as of September 30, we still had 640 employees who were either unvaccinated or had not reported their vaccination status, which represents 11 percent of the SFMTA workforce. We are working with employees who have requested a medical or religious exemption from the vaccination requirement, but that represents a small number of employees. We absolutely do not want any of our employees to lose their jobs or their incomes and are going to keep working to support them in complying with the mandate in every way we can.

If hundreds of our employees are still unvaccinated as of November 1 and are terminated, it will significantly impact transit operations and parking control San Francisco. It will also impact schools that lose their crossing guards.

We have begun continuity of operations planning based on pre-built scenarios, and we are informing our city leaders and the public of how this situation may impact the daily lives of our city’s residents.

Impact on transit operations: The number of unvaccinated transit operators is roughly equivalent to the total number of operators we expected to train and hire between June 2021 and December 2022. If this number is not significantly improved, we will be forced to reduce service back to May 2021 levels.

Impact on parking control: If we can’t reduce the number of unvaccinated parking control officers before November 1, the agency will be forced to partially suspend abandoned vehicle enforcement, booting and commuter shuttle enforcement services and reduce residential parking permit enforcement and meter enforcement. It could also impact disabled placard enforcement and shrink our Chase Stadium detail.

If you have not yet been vaccinated against COVID-19, you cannot wait until November 1 to get your first shot. You are required to report that you are fully vaccinated by October 30. Fully vaccinated means that two weeks has passed since your final vaccination shot. November 1 is when you need to be fully vaccinated.

October 17 is the last day you can get the J&J vaccine and be fully vaccinated by November 1. It is also the last day you can get the second Pfizer or Moderna shot.

On October 13 at 10 a.m., Dr. Ayanna Bennett, Director of the Office of Health Equity at the Department of Public Health, is returning to the SFMTA to answer employee questions. More information about this event will be coming soon.

If you have additional questions, please call the CCSF COVID-19 vaccine information hotline at 855.850.2249 or reach out to your healthcare provider. Find vaccination sites at myturn.ca.gov.

While we will continue to work with those who have not been vaccinated yet throughout the agency over the course of the next month, we must simultaneously plan for a worst-case scenario. 

We will keep you and the public updated.

So it seems to may termination is in the books for CCSF in the coming weeks. I will not apply for exemptions either. I've gotten e-mailed numerous warnings as well as mailed copies to my house as well. Anyone else here get something alluding to termination as well?

[LBDamned]

^^^ so they unapologetically admit to ruining things over this nonsense.

I'm not surprised.

[Ulfhednar]

So it seems to may termination is in the books for CCSF in the coming weeks. I will not apply for exemptions either. I've gotten e-mailed numerous warnings as well as mailed copies to my house as well. Anyone else here get something alluding to termination as well?

My last day, after 20 years, is 10/13, looks we get to go first in the Termination chain. According to the City it is a "non-punitive separation".

[anthonyca]

My last day, after 20 years, is 10/13, looks we get to go first in the Termination chain. According to the City it is a "non-punitive separation".

Did you apply for an exemption? Are you leaving on your own or are they going to walk you out?

[Ulfhednar]

Did you apply for an exemption? Are you leaving on your own or are they going to walk you out?

I applied for an Exemption, with a 2 page letter from my Religious organization, and a filled out and completed "DECLARATION IN SUPPORT OF EMPLOYEE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION" form by a Religious leader and scholar. I was initially approved, and then the City Attorneys office did a "second" review and so far EVERY Exemption (previously approved or not) was subsequently denied. I got my secondary denial notice just after the deadline, but I wasn't going to compromise anyway.

Incidentally, I have already had C-19 and have active anti-bodies, but didn't even attempt a medical exemption due to the intimidation of medical staff to not grant any medical exemptions.

I decided not to resign, but make them take my case, with almost 150 others in my Department, to the Commission, where they are telling us it is a "non-punitive separation".

[anthonyca]

I applied for an Exemption, with a 2 page letter from my Religious organization, and a filled out and completed "DECLARATION IN SUPPORT OF EMPLOYEE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION" form by a Religious leader and scholar. I was initially approved, and then the City Attorneys office did a "second" review and so far EVERY Exemption (previously approved or not) was subsequently denied. I got my secondary denial notice just after the deadline, but I wasn't going to compromise anyway.

Incidentally, I have already had C-19 and have active anti-bodies, but didn't even attempt a medical exemption due to the intimidation of medical staff to not grant any medical exemptions.

I decided not to resign, but make them take my case, with almost 150 others in my Department, to the Commission, where they are telling us it is a "non-punitive separation".

Non punitive. Lol. Don't give up, organize and fight these tyrants.

What local are you in? Some people need to sue thier unions for not representing them. You can answer in a PM if you dont want to here.

[Ulfhednar]

Non punitive. Lol. Don't give up, organize and fight these tyrants.

What local are you in? Some people need to sue thier unions for not representing them. You can answer in a PM if you dont want to here.

I hold a genuine and sincere religious belief regarding this, but I also feel that it is at the very core of individual liberty that one should be able to make a their own decision on what medical treatments or procedures they accept.

I am not giving up, and not giving in; and it seems by timeline my Department will be the first under the ax as my last day is 10/13 and the Captains have been told to get our gear by 10/14.

I have been in constant contact with my union (SFPOA), but alas the rumor is half the Executive board have expressed opinions, often overheard, that we are the malcontents and blame us for the hardship in staffing that is about to ensue with the termination ("non-punitive separation" - which I put in quotes because that terminology is not in our MOU, and I personally don't believe the City and County will let us off without some form of reprisal for our "defiance" or attempt to gain a legal exemption under Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964).

I have no faith left in the process, but maybe a decade down the line this may be set right; if the country hasn't fallen completely off the map by then.

[stix213]

I have been in constant contact with my union (SFPOA), but alas the rumor is half the Executive board have expressed opinions, often overheard, that we are the malcontents and blame us for the hardship in staffing that is about to ensue with the termination ("non-punitive separation" - which I put in quotes because that terminology is not in our MOU, and I personally don't believe the City and County will let us off without some form of reprisal for our "defiance" or attempt to gain a legal exemption under Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964).

So they are firing you, and they are mad at you for firing you. That sounds like being mad at your wife for "having to" beat your wife.

[deerdeerdeer]

They told me they was gonna fire me last week now I am being held hostage from my workplace where I don't even work.