Trumps Message - Facebook Pulled

[foothillman]

Take the average it's ~36K per year. It's what I did.

Include 2020 than average is???? 51,000 per year in the USA
The USA is getting a touch of 3rd world death
Why do parents have so many children in poor country's?
The odds are 1 out of 5 children will dye before age 5
The world is cruel get over it.
The day you are born the earth is trying to kill you.

Be thankful the place you live, be brave and venture out.


If over 55 than you do not live in.....

[sbo80]

one problem with comparing to influenza, is that there has been quite a massive number of covid testing. Influenza is rarely tested, often it's either just assumed, or ignored, especially if it's not fatal. Who gets a flu test when they get sick unless they're dying? Most of the people with the flu never even see a doctor. I never have. Much of flu data is extrapolated and estimated from models based on smaller sample sizes. Nobody's been concerned enough if they're particularly accurate year over year, since it doesn't really matter much. I'm not a statistician so I don't know how good these models actually are, and I'm not sure it's possible to know. But now that we're doing actual lots of testing for covid I am not convinced any comparison is apples to apples.

[five.five-six]

Comparing COVID-19 to seasonal influenza:

https://github.com/mbevand/covid19-age-stratified-ifr

Except for children it's FAR more dangerous than the flu for every other age group.

"in most populations far less lethal." Pants on fire false.

"Sometimes over a 100,000 die of the flu" Sure, in 1918 more than 100,000 died of the flu and I'm sure in some other random years we exceeded 100K deaths. However, medical technology and treatments are a lot better now than even the 1990s, so a fair comparison would be flu deaths in recent years. Over the last 10 years we averaged 36,000 flu deaths per year. So technically true, but not really relevant information.

Ok yea, it's super deadly to 74 year old overweight presidents n stuff.


3 days and he was back on the job. 3 effing days

[Scota4570]

I find it frustrating that so many refuse to accept the possibility that we are being lied to about the virus. These same media people and politicians routinely lie and create propaganda. Candidates openly admit they will take both your first and second amendment rights. Yet they take an oath of office and swear on the bible that they will uphold the Constitution. Creating hysteria over a virus seems likely to me.

[balgor]

Include 2020 than average is???? 51,000 per year in the USA

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

37 + 12 + 43 + 38 +51 + 23 + 38 +61 + 34 + 22 =359/10 = 35.9K average estimated flu deaths per year over last 10 years.

Where are you getting a 51K average over the last 10 years?

[DentonandSasquatchShow]

I'm still trying to figure out why you guys argue with these Covid sycophants.

[balgor]

Ok yea, it's super deadly to 74 year old overweight presidents n stuff.


3 days and he was back on the job. 3 effing days

Covid isn't black death deadly, but it's certainly 3-15X more deadly than the flu for most age groups. Flu with an average IFR of 0.05% just isn't very deadly. Stating that covid is about as deadly as the flu is just plain wrong.

For a 74 year old the IFR of covid is ~2% and for the flu it's ~0.15%, so yeah it's deadlier. The fact trump didn't die isn't surprising, ~98% of people in his age group survive covid and 99.85% of people in his age group survive the flu. Would you prefer a 1/50 chance in dying or a 1/666.7 chance of dying?

[sd_shooter]

Covid isn't black death deadly, but it's certainly 3-15X more deadly than the flu for most age groups. Flu with an average IFR of 0.05% just isn't very deadly. Stating that covid is about as deadly as the flu is just plain wrong.

For a 74 year old the IFR of covid is ~2% and for the flu it's ~0.15%, so yeah it's deadlier. The fact trump didn't die isn't surprising, ~98% of people in his age group survive covid and 99.85% of people in his age group survive the flu. Would you prefer a 1/50 chance in dying or a 1/666.7 chance of dying?

Wishful thinking.

Let's look at Sweden, they had about 2X the deaths when compared to a bad flu season. This seems like a good rule of thumb. They're the only place that didn't have politics as the main reason for covid response. (Remember: science doesn't truly exist in isolation any more... it's about the control and the money)

The Flu numbers tainted:
- We have a vaccine that ranges between 0%-50% effective
- The government gets bored of tracking it, it's not done on an annual basis, only on a 'season'

Covid numbers also tainted:
- Bounties paid for 'cases' and respirator use. Less incentive to see patient walk out.
- NYC truly botched their response, the elderly didn't have a fighting chance because they were all combined
- Many deaths tagged as 'covid' for sake of convenience
- Excess deaths are not a good measure either, now we have postponed diagnosis and care for other disease, more suicides etc

[VictorFranko]

In 1968 100K died in USA from flu.

In far less than a year 200,000+ have died from Covid flu.

Just wondering what your point was.

[wpage]

Facebook has its own agenda. They own it not us. So if they want to pull something they feel violates thier policy.

They will do it.

[five.five-six]

In far less than a year 200,000+ have died from Covid flu.

Just wondering what your point was.

207,000 have died with it not necessarily from it. In fact all you have to have is one of the Covid symptoms, not even a positive test but just a symptom to be counted in those 200,000.

[bagman]

Trump knows better than most that the alleged 200,000 deaths is BS.

[foothillman]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

37 + 12 + 43 + 38 +51 + 23 + 38 +61 + 34 + 22 =359/10 = 35.9K average estimated flu deaths per year over last 10 years.

Where are you getting a 51K average over the last 10 years?

Add 200 for 2020 just a guess like all the other numbers out on the internet.

359 + 200 / 11 = 50.8 sure the "real" number is ?

2020 no one died from old age in the USA
When the total deaths for 2020 are compared to 2019 will it be 300,000 higher?
Those on the edge are taken early, sucks.
Nursing Homes are not Hospitals.

Fifty-three percent of nursing home residents in the study died within six months.

I remember grandmas nursing home being closed to visitors during flu season.
Many years before COVID19, this is not a new problem.
Influenza is deadly and the answere is to let your body heal itself.

People with the flu are advised to get plenty of rest, drink plenty of liquids, avoid using alcohol and tobacco and, if necessary, take medications such as acetaminophen (paracetamol) to relieve the fever and muscle aches associated with the flu.

Not enough $$ for BIGPHARMA to have a real treatment.
Good money selling flu shots with 40 to 60% effectiveness.

[Mullins]

207,000 have died with it not necessarily from it. In fact all you have to have is one of the Covid symptoms, not even a positive test but just a symptom to be counted in those 200,000.

This exactly!!! The covid death toll is highly inflated!
Only 6-9k people have died from covid as the only health issue, and many of the "covid deaths" were elderly people who were murdered by the left.

[toro1]

Comparing COVID-19 to seasonal influenza:

https://github.com/mbevand/covid19-age-stratified-ifr

Except for children it's FAR more dangerous than the flu for every other age group.

"in most populations far less lethal." Pants on fire false.

from your link.
Am I reading it correctly that the COVID curves are estimates?