Hydroxychloroquine works in high-risk patients, and saying otherwise is dangerous

[Den60]

Would love to know what degree Balgor has. We know he said he didn't pursue one in biochemistry because he posted to that. He does say he has a "non-clinical" position in some sort of "med center." I'm going to guess he has a degree in public health. I'm going with that. Of course, you can get a degree in hospital administration as well. Both of those degrees you can get at MS or PhD degree from one of the numerous "if you check clears we will give you your degree" universities in this country.

[Den60]

Been explained many times. India median age 26.8 USA median age 38.2. etc etc etc etc

Younger people die at a lower rate from Covid. India has a LOT more young people. Therefore, less Indians will die from Covid.

Their are vast systematic differences between countries besides their usage of HCQ that explain their differences in mortality rates?

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

So, LBC what's the latest Q prophecy? Was Kamala running a pedophilia ring out of a pet store in Oakland?

Had to go back to this post. Really, the difference can explained, soley, because of a 10 year median difference in age between the US and India? You just posted this and then condemn the rest of us for not being as intellectually woke as you? It is, most definitely, much more complex than what you are proposing. God, you are stoopid to think the rest of us are as stoopid as you.

[theLBC]

Would love to know what degree Balgor has. We know he said he didn't pursue one in biochemistry because he posted to that. He does say he has a "non-clinical" position in some sort of "med center." I'm going to guess he has a degree in public health. I'm going with that. Of course, you can get a degree in hospital administration as well. Both of those degrees you can get at MS or PhD degree from one of the numerous "if you check clears we will give you your degree" universities in this country.

i don't even think he is bright enough to come up with the "mean age" argument on his own.
i suspect he is parroting something he saw or heard on DU, Fark.com or some other liberal haven.

[Den60]

i don't even think he is bright enough to come up with the "mean age" argument on his own.
i suspect he is parroting something he saw or heard on DU, Fark.com or some other liberal haven.

I'd really live to see those on here who say they are experts when it comes to this virus post what degrees they have and where they got them from. We do have some MDs on here that I know of. Would really like to know what Balgor, Smashy (yea, put that one down with a straight face) and Duenor have their degree from and from where.

No, I don't expect them to provide that.

[stonefly-2]

Would love to know what degree Balgor has. We know he said he didn't pursue one in biochemistry because he posted to that. He does say he has a "non-clinical" position in some sort of "med center." I'm going to guess he has a degree in public health. I'm going with that. Of course, you can get a degree in hospital administration as well. Both of those degrees you can get at MS or PhD degree from one of the numerous "if you check clears we will give you your degree" universities in this country.

He may or may not be an idiot but it's not the statements from idiots that are a concern.

It's statements from people that would be trusted.

[Den60]

He may or may not be an idiot but it's not the statements from idiots that are a concern.

It's statements from people that would be trusted.

Then perhaps we should have a COVID forum where you have to disclose what qualifications, degree or level of training you have in the area of contagious disease or general biological knowledge so people can make an educated decision on how much credence the should give to certain posts? I'm good with that.

[balgor]

There are vast systematic differences between countries besides their usage of HCQ, that explain their differences in mortality rates.

Age, medical system, innate immunity, vaccination rates, etc, etc, etc, etc.

So the age of a population would have no affect on the mortality rate? Really?

Only someone who has zero knowledge of methods would think a cross sectional analysis at country level unit of analysis tells you anything.

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

[smashycrashy]

This is just newsweek OPINION piece 2.0, same cancer epidemiologist making the same argument. Can we just merge threads.

[Den60]

There are vast systematic differences between countries besides their usage of HCQ, that explain their differences in mortality rates.

Age, medical system, innate immunity, vaccination rates, etc, etc, etc, etc.

So the age of a population would have no affect on the mortality rate? Really?

Only someone who has zero knowledge of methods would think a cross sectional analysis at country level unit of analysis tells you anything.

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

And yet you said it was just about the median age differences between the two populations:

Been explained many times. India median age 26.8 USA median age 38.2. etc etc etc etc

Younger people die at a lower rate from Covid. India has a LOT more young people. Therefore, less Indians will die from Covid.

Their are vast systematic differences between countries besides their usage of HCQ that explain their differences in mortality rates?

You don't mention that some countries may find it to their benefit to under-report their cases. That is not the case in the US where there is an economic reason, as well as a political, one to do so.

[CAL.BAR]

8 members of the NIH Covid-19 treatment advisory board have significant financial ties to Geliead Sciences.

they have big financial incentives to make sure something cheap is ignored.
they can't force you to take an unproven vaccine every year for $50 a pop if there is something else that works.

the entire DOJ and FBI was corrupt under Obama and ran a treasonous operation to remove the duly elected president after failing to adequately sabotage his election.

and you find corrupt health officials hard to believe?
please.

Amount of actual evidence contained in this post? ZERO. Sure, the ENTIRE DOJ and FBI is suddenly corrupt because it doesn't suit YOUR narrative.

[CAL.BAR]

Okay, let me show you how this works.

Aside from the 'orange man bad' hyperbole headline about buying the entire world stock, here's the fact that we, the US, bought 500k doses of remdesvir from Gilead for 1.6 billion dollars.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8477093/Fears-UK-coronavirus-patients-buys-ENTIRE-world-stock-remdesivir.html

Now a different way of reporting the story.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/06/29/trump-administration-secures-new-supplies-remdesivir-united-states.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/remdesivir-covid-19-1-6-billion-modestly-beneficial-drug/5717690

Now I have posted in other threads a response to your claim of buying 63 million doses of HCQ with article after article showing a dozen companies donating tens if not hundreds of millions of doses of HCQ.

So your turn, post a link to a reliable source that shows this administration buying 63 milloin doses of HCQ.

Edit:



Donated the drugs.

Donated the drugs.

Donated the drugs.

Do you know the definition of 'donated'?

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/us-left-with-63-million-doses-of-anti-malarial-drug-after-fda-revoked-its-emergency-use/ar-BB15GjvB

Edit2: Tens of millions of people in the US take HCQ for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis every year, it's far from 'banned', in fact it's super safe, so safe that lupus and arthritis sufferers take it for years on end.

No PURCHASED doses of HCQ. PERIOD.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/us-bought-over-29-million-hydroxychloroquine-doses-from-india-trump/ar-BB12iJh6

[stonefly-2]

Then perhaps we should have a COVID forum where you have to disclose what qualifications, degree or level of training you have in the area of contagious disease or general biological knowledge so people can make an educated decision on how much credence the should give to certain posts? I'm good with that.

So far it seems like the more credentials the less I believe.

The 2 way feces fling here over statistics has made that a wash...by design I think.

The WHO is corrupt and without any credibility whatever,

lets give the CDC the benefit of the doubt and just take note that they have been grossly wrong a many turns.

Fauci is a little toad that needs to be bounced out of the room.

When a complex thing such as this makes the news there is pretty reliably a lot of wrong information early on.....I suppose out of a desire to be right first....human nature.

When there is enough disinformation to obscure and prevent a cohesive defense for this long case we call that a campaign.

We have the great good fortune to have a capable leader after so long without in America but the prog sees this pandemic as a chance to prevail...it isn't.

[five.five-six]

There are vast systematic differences between countries besides their usage of HCQ, that explain their differences in mortality rates.

Age, medical system, innate immunity, vaccination rates, etc, etc, etc, etc.

So the age of a population would have no affect on the mortality rate? Really?

Only someone who has zero knowledge of methods would think a cross sectional analysis at country level unit of analysis tells you anything.

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

[five.five-six]

Fauci is a little toad that needs to be bounced out of the room.

[balgor]

I’m still stuck on how “The median of a set of numbers has nothing to do with the number of elements in a set.”

Are we just going to play pretend you never said that and just move forward to your next stupid comment?

Asking for a friend.

Seriously, I have to break it down for you? Which word don't you understand? Median? Set? Element?

The median is the number where 50% of the numbers in a set are below it and 50% are above it. It is completely unrelated to the numbers elements in the set. 5 numbers, 50 numbers, 5 X 10^73 numbers it doesn't matter how many elements are in the set, it's still the the number where 50% of the numbers in a set are below it and 50% are above it. The definition isn't dependent on the number of elements in the set.

Ok, explain to me how the definition of median changes with the number of elements in the set? I'll be waiting a long time.