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  • #16
    240z
    Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 121

    I bought Chimerix

    I bought Chimerix, who is running Trials on DSTAT for treatment of the lung damage caused by COVID-19. Early results look good.

    I have been looking at Humanagen's trial of a treatment drug as well (Lenzilumab) which to me also looks significantly better in early trials than Remdesivir.

    A friend in the business picked Gilead to solve the problem very early on when I asked him about possible treatments, but upon checking them out, it looks to me like there is all sorts of possible funny business going on there, not the least of which was an obvious stock pump not long back.

    Add to that all of the connections in the background and Fauci's clear favoritism of Remdesivir, and the old "follow the money" adage seems to confirm my hesitations about the company and that drug.

    Time will tell.

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    • #17
      balgor
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1553

      Originally posted by five.five-six
      Nice try but you are explaining Ring Theory to penguins.
      Just sigh, it's why I try not to respond to certain people like LBC. The median of a set of numbers has nothing to do with the number of elements in a set.
      Critical Thinking Skills:
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      • #18
        SAN compnerd
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2009
        • 4725

        Originally posted by CAL.BAR
        The VAST majority of the medical community is in agreement with the CDC. HCQ DOESN'T WORK! Even IF trump bought 63 million doses from his corporate buddies. IT JUST DOESN'T.

        If you have EVIDENCE that the entire CDC (which banned the use of HCQ), really and truly would rather allow Americans to sicken and die than use a truly safe and effective medicine BRING IT! Stop with this nonsense.
        Okay, let me show you how this works.

        Aside from the 'orange man bad' hyperbole headline about buying the entire world stock, here's the fact that we, the US, bought 500k doses of remdesvir from Gilead for 1.6 billion dollars.
        Last night it was revealed the US bought more than 500,000 doses of remdesivir - making up the entire global supply for July and 90 per cent of stocks for August and September.


        Now a different way of reporting the story.




        Now I have posted in other threads a response to your claim of buying 63 million doses of HCQ with article after article showing a dozen companies donating tens if not hundreds of millions of doses of HCQ.

        So your turn, post a link to a reliable source that shows this administration buying 63 milloin doses of HCQ.

        Edit:

        In a statement to CNN, Carol Danko, a US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) spokesperson, revealed that the HHS is now collaborating with companies who donated the drugs to "determine the available options for the product."
        Donated the drugs.

        Donated the drugs.

        Donated the drugs.

        Do you know the definition of 'donated'?


        Edit2: Tens of millions of people in the US take HCQ for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis every year, it's far from 'banned', in fact it's super safe, so safe that lupus and arthritis sufferers take it for years on end.
        Last edited by SAN compnerd; 08-13-2020, 2:04 PM.
        "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

        Originally posted by SAN compnerd
        When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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        • #19
          balgor
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1553

          Originally posted by theLBC
          OMG, you really are that dense. who lays out your outfit for the day?
          India has 1.5 billion people, so your ignorant median age figure means nothing.
          they have 525,000,000 over the age of 35, or 1.5x our entire population.

          cameltoe's sister is taking HCQ.
          You're actually right about Kamala's sister she does take HCQ, because she has LUPUS. You know an FDA approved usage of HCQ.
          Critical Thinking Skills:
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          • #20
            five.five-six
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2006
            • 34781

            Originally posted by Ring Theory
            Just sigh, it's why I try not to respond to certain people like LBC. The median of a set of numbers has nothing to do with the number of elements in a set.


            Sure thing, LOL

            Not saying which of you are correct, the truth probably lays somewhere in the middle but Jebus H Rice, get over yourself.

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            • #21
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34781

              Originally posted by theLBC


              i hope he doesn't have a real job that affects other people.

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              • #22
                theLBC
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2017
                • 6604

                Originally posted by balgor
                You're actually right about Kamala's sister she does take HCQ, because she has LUPUS. You know an FDA approved usage of HCQ.
                so you're not going to try to defend your ignorant comment about the median age in india? guess you want to move on from that blunder, huh?

                100 bucks says Harris' sister is never hospitalized for covid.

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                • #23
                  balgor
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1553

                  Originally posted by theLBC
                  OMG, you really are that dense. who lays out your outfit for the day?
                  India has 1.5 billion people, so your ignorant median age figure means nothing.
                  they have 525,000,000 over the age of 35, or 1.5x our entire population.

                  cameltoe's sister is taking HCQ.
                  LBC in your own words, what is a median? What does it have to do with the size of a population?
                  Critical Thinking Skills:
                  Learn how to examine your sources and check for fake news or misleading facts.
                  https://libguides.royalroads.ca/criticalthinking

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                  • #24
                    theLBC
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 6604

                    Originally posted by balgor
                    LBC in your own words, what is a median? What does it have to do with the size of a population?
                    the median age says nothing about how many old (vulnerable) there are.
                    about 10% of the US population is over 85. (of 330 million)
                    about 6.4% of the Indian population is over 85 (of 1.5 billion).

                    which country has more people over 85?

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                    • #25
                      Den60
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 2695

                      Originally posted by balgor
                      LBC in your own words, what is a median? What does it have to do with the size of a population?
                      Mean is the average of a sample.

                      Median splits the sample into two equal parts.


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                      • #26
                        five.five-six
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2006
                        • 34781

                        Originally posted by balgor
                        Just sigh, it's why I try not to respond to certain people like LBC. The median of a set of numbers has nothing to do with the number of elements in a set.

                        I’d be fascinated to have you explain to us simple penguin types, how exactly you can derive the mean and the median without the number of elements in the set, which in your words “has nothing to do with it”



                        Forgive me for the unsolicited advice but you really should march into the admissions office of wherever you went to school and demand a refund because you got ripped off. These are things my 10-year-old is studying. Not only are you impressed with your mastery of the subject, you also suffer from the unfortunate circumstance of being wrong. It’s quite a pickle.

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                        • #27
                          theLBC
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 6604

                          Originally posted by five.five-six
                          I’d be fascinated to have you explain to us simple penguin types, how exactly you can derive the mean and the median without the number of elements in the set, which in your words “has nothing to do with it”



                          Forgive me for the unsolicited advice but you really should march into the admissions office of wherever you went to school and demand a refund because you got ripped off. These are things my 10-year-old is studying. Not only are you impressed with your mastery of the subject, you also suffer from the unfortunate circumstance of being wrong. It’s quite a pickle.
                          he's a moron.
                          India has over 2.5x the number of really old people we do.

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                          • #28
                            SW1917
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 791

                            Any discussion of HCQ is political from the start - the OPs article certainly is

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                            • #29
                              theLBC
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 6604

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                              • #30
                                five.five-six
                                CGN Contributor
                                • May 2006
                                • 34781

                                Originally posted by theLBC
                                he's a moron.
                                India has over 2.5x the number of really old people we do.

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