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  • #46
    AR15fan
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Nov 2008
    • 628

    Originally posted by duenor
    I agree entirely, much like how cruise ships, airlines, and hotels don't make money unless it is full or nearly full all the time.

    That said, it seems like the hospitals aren't saying that they are being overwhelmed, it's that they are warning that at the rate we are going they risk being overwhelmed. As you note, they make money only at 90%+. It then stands to reason that even in the best of times there isn't a whole lot of slack.

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    • #47
      joepamjohn
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2709

      Originally posted by duenor
      This is another example of why the media doesn't know how to interpret data. They will look at this graph and say, "look at our 40,000 positive tests when we had only around 20,000 positives a few weeks ago" but they don't understand that the most important thing is that we are way lower than we were in March and April and we will be avoiding a economic tragedy. Mission accomplished and we have successfully reduced our positivity rate by a factor of five. It may look like we are going up because we went from 20,000 to 40,000, but we are not.
      But, if Gavin can’t prove “with numbers” that we are having an emergency he can’t grab the $8 billion from his cookie jar fund to fund his special interest deals.
      "You can't handle the truth"

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      • #48
        joepamjohn
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 2709

        And if it’s so bad then where are all the temporary Covid overflow Triage tent locations, the schools that were converted to medical response centers, the formerly closed hospitals, vacant buildings and medical centers that were reopened and put on notice, the two hospital ships and all the other preemptive facilities that were put into action back in March. Everything I am reading is we are if not worse off than back then, we will soon be. Something smells bad here and it’s not me.......well, maybe a little.
        Last edited by joepamjohn; 06-27-2020, 5:34 PM.
        "You can't handle the truth"

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        • #49
          benjamin101677
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2012
          • 1063

          I know a doctor that has treated over 140 cases of covid 19; it is only deadly if you have another illness or long issues or very old.

          The common allergy shot when given to a patient reduces the seriousness of the illness by 50%. Cases are up by the serious are way down which means the virus is becoming less stringers as more people antibodies fight its

          Our underline belief democrats have to stall the economy again and get a mail in ballot system for Biden to win.

          It will get worse with media and stuff the closer we get towards the fall.

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          • #50
            tuna quesadilla
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 5147

            Originally posted by AR15fan
            Houston ICU beds are not at 100%. Texas Medical Center CEO’s all dispute that terrible story. And certain LEFTIST members of CalGus just repeat it. Stop. I swear there should be an IQ teat for admission to this forum.
            What is an IQ teat?

            Why did you write "LEFTIST" in capital letters, as though it were an initialism or acronym?

            What is CalGus?

            Why did you use an apostrophe to pluralize "CEO" in your second sentence?

            Finally, now that you've made your lengthy appeal for IQ tests, do you understand the concept of irony and how it relates to your post?

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            • #51
              wpage
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2011
              • 6072

              The spike not wave was clearly a result of protests, riots, and funerals by fools that care less for others...
              God so loved the world He gave His only Son... Believe in Him and have everlasting life.
              John 3:16

              NRA,,, Lifer

              United Air Epic Fail Video ...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99Q7pNAjvg

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              • #52
                sd_shooter
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2008
                • 14282

                Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                What is an IQ teat?

                Why did you write "LEFTIST" in capital letters, as though it were an initialism or acronym?

                What is CalGus?

                Why did you use an apostrophe to pluralize "CEO" in your second sentence?

                Finally, now that you've made your lengthy appeal for IQ tests, do you understand the concept of irony and how it relates to your post?

                There is a douche test. Good news! You passed

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                • #53
                  LBDamned
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 19040

                  Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                  What is an IQ teat?

                  Why did you write "LEFTIST" in capital letters, as though it were an initialism or acronym?

                  What is CalGus?

                  Why did you use an apostrophe to pluralize "CEO" in your second sentence?

                  Finally, now that you've made your lengthy appeal for IQ tests, do you understand the concept of irony and how it relates to your post?

                  Not to speak for the guy, but you're relating IQ to typos? That's a stretch.

                  Typing on mobile devices can be a pita.
                  "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                  • #54
                    Den60
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 2695

                    Originally posted by duenor
                    I do agree. That said, I have had many first hand experiences with businesses and people who just DGAF about anything other than their profits and getting ahead. If they could save some money by dumping all their garbage in a lake, and get away with it, they would. If they could squeeze workers dry, then dump them before they could accrue benefits, they would (and do). And so on.

                    I don't pretend to know how to draw the line, or where. But it is a worthwhile goal.
                    I didn't say "no government," I said "limited government."


                    Mojave Lever Crew Member

                    "It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day. Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down." - Kamala "Heels Up" Harris

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                    • #55
                      AR15fan
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 628

                      Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                      What is an IQ teat?

                      Why did you write "LEFTIST" in capital letters, as though it were an initialism or acronym?

                      What is CalGus?

                      Why did you use an apostrophe to pluralize "CEO" in your second sentence?

                      Finally, now that you've made your lengthy appeal for IQ tests, do you understand the concept of irony and how it relates to your post?

                      Thanks for the grammar lesson. Ignore list is getting longer.
                      Last edited by AR15fan; 06-29-2020, 10:03 AM.

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                      • #56
                        gdr_11
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2572

                        Was in a restaurant about 30 minutes ago having lunch and CNN had an article on AZ telling the world that less than 10% of the hospital beds in AZ are available due to the Covid crisis and skyrocketing cases.

                        My grandaughter and grandaughter-in-law are both nurses in the Phoenix area and both have been on two day work weeks because of the lack of patients at either of their hospitals.

                        You can't ask for more blatant lying than CNN
                        In an emergency, always dial 1911.

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                        • #57
                          sd_shooter
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 14282

                          Originally posted by gdr_11
                          Was in a restaurant about 30 minutes ago having lunch and CNN had an article on AZ telling the world that less than 10% of the hospital beds in AZ are available due to the Covid crisis and skyrocketing cases.

                          My grandaughter and grandaughter-in-law are both nurses in the Phoenix area and both have been on two day work weeks because of the lack of patients at either of their hospitals.

                          You can't ask for more blatant lying than CNN
                          Thanks for the boots-on-the-ground account!

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                          • #58
                            AR15fan
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 628

                            Originally posted by gdr_11
                            Was in a restaurant about 30 minutes ago having lunch and CNN had an article on AZ telling the world that less than 10% of the hospital beds in AZ are available due to the Covid crisis and skyrocketing cases.

                            My grandaughter and grandaughter-in-law are both nurses in the Phoenix area and both have been on two day work weeks because of the lack of patients at either of their hospitals.

                            You can't ask for more blatant lying than CNN
                            Hospitals in general do not make money until census is above 90%. In other words, all normal.

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                            • #59
                              theLBC
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 7404

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                              • #60
                                bagman
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 568

                                Originally posted by gdr_11
                                Was in a restaurant about 30 minutes ago having lunch and CNN had an article on AZ telling the world that less than 10% of the hospital beds in AZ are available due to the Covid crisis and skyrocketing cases.

                                My grandaughter and grandaughter-in-law are both nurses in the Phoenix area and both have been on two day work weeks because of the lack of patients at either of their hospitals.

                                You can't ask for more blatant lying than CNN
                                Throughout this whole "crisis" reports from anyone but the MSM have shown virtually empty waiting rooms and lack of activity at hospitals. Unfortunately for us fake news abounds from both sides these days.

                                In your case you have a 1st person account so that's better than reports.

                                I guess we're back to covid covid covid until they can push Russia Russia Russia back to the forefront. They're trying with this bounty story.

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