Randomized Controlled Study shows that HCQ not a preventive

[theLBC]

And it is just junk like all the stuff you post.

there is a lot of hyperbolic language, but the report of the report is basically factual as far as i can tell.
did you find outright lies about what the study said? most of it is in quotes, although the author admitted highlighting.

(Emphasis mine throughout.)

The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, “We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”

Dr. Anthony FauciThis means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured at right) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it’s even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus (“therapeutic”) but prevent future cases (“prophylactic”). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci’s researchers add, “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.”

[smashycrashy]

there is a lot of hyperbolic language, but the report of the report is basically factual as far as i can tell.
did you find outright lies about what the study said? most of it is in quotes, although the author admitted highlighting.

[Den60]

how about quoting me, since you are accusing me directly?

what i do recall saying or suggesting is that my research leads me to believe that HCQ is a transport agent for getting zinc into the cells where it can help to slow replication of the virus, and that in the absence of adequate levels of zinc, it is probably ineffective.

the people getting sickest have other illnesses that are associated with low zinc levels (cancer, diabetes, sickle cell, liver disease..).
additionally, "anecdotal" reports from doctors that have treated dozens to thousands of patients seem to back up these suppositions.

HCQ cannot "prevent" you from getting covid, because you have to have the virus in your system already for the benefits i have described to do anything.
what it might be able to do is slow down replication of the virus so your body has time to respond before it is overwhelemed.

so far i have yet to see a valid study saying the combination of HCQ+Z-pak+Zinc is ineffective. imo, anything but these 3 things in the proper amounts is not a real study and like the VA and Lancet study (which is under attack), seem to be designed to fail.

He won't. This study does not include zinc though a "researcher" says it didn't matter. No data for that I can see. I ask, as someone with a degree in science, why was it allowed in the study if it was not part of the study? Who took it, those with HCL or those with the placebo? Where is the data for that?

[theLBC]

that is his opinion or his way of putting it, which he corrects immediately.

reduce

in primate cells.

is it a cure? if it helps people get better.
is it a vaccine?
obviously not, because the flu vaccine works 1 out of 92 worthless injections or more some years

[theLBC]

And it is just junk like all the stuff you post.

and you also just admitted to being a liar. or are you still searching for my post saying that i believe it will stop everyone from being infected?

[theLBC]

but hey, even though the yearly flu "vaccine" is probably not going to help you or half of your friends that get the shot, at least they get you or your insurance to pay $40-50 for a useless injection every single year.
170 million x 50 bucks every year is pretty good for something that doesn't work.

[smashycrashy]

You seem angry, i hear hcq works for that too, you should go take some.

[seal20]

Hey! smasherbasher! I'd take some if I was on a downward spiral of COVID-19....

[theLBC]

You seem angry, i hear hcq works for that too, you should go take some.

[M76]

What virus? All the news is about justice for floyd looters!

[Hammertime]

What virus? All the news is about justice for floyd looters!

They all took HCQ and have face masks.

In other news, George Floyd had COVID.

Autopsy found that out.

What a **** show. Now everyone that got near the 4 “officers” are going to be quarantined.

So what people are doing is protesting a wrongful death and that is fine, but the victim was not social distancing, had the virus and was being a scum bag in general.

Did I leave anything out?

Oh yeah, the riots are over a “white cop’s” actions, what about the other half of the crew?

Sign of the times

[bagman]

The Anti HCQ Study Is Now Being Called Fake News, So Trump Was Right??!

[Creampuff]

The Anti HCQ Study Is Now Being Called Fake News, So Trump Was Right??!

The articles that were retracted wasn't the one in this original post. The articles retracted were the ones involved with Surgisphere. How they let the Surgisphere data get through without vetting? Were they in a rush? Don't know.

Surgisphere is trying to spin this already but too late, their name is now mud.

[theLBC]

The articles that were retracted wasn't the one in this original post. The articles retracted were the ones involved with Surgisphere. How they let the Surgisphere data get through without vetting? Were they in a rush? Don't know.

Surgisphere is trying to spin this already but too late, their name is now mud.

i read they got problems.

[Creampuff]

In a bizarre way, this points to one of the strengths of peer review. Bad data should get called out. Ideally it should never have gotten published, but if it does peer review will test the data.

No system is infallible. But it did work in this case.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Yay medicine look at us!!! This is a black eye on medicine. Always vet.