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  • #31
    ColdDeadHands1
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 3391

    Here are some good resources for the Caldor Fire:

    Fire perimeter map:


    Evacuation map:


    "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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    • #32
      M&P40FAN
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 1122

      With the shift in winds I'm concerned about the Volcano area and highway 88 corridor.

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      • #33
        marksolar
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 178

        If you want to see the wind patterns, and predicted wind patters, go to
        windy.com

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        • #34
          nitroxdiver
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2009
          • 6979

          wildland fire information, wildfire hotlist, wildfire maps, wildlandfire, open source wildfire intel



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          • #35
            Defy Concealment
            Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 410

            My girlfriend and her family live 2 blocks from the grizzly flats post office. They managed to get their important things out like photos, pets, and their paperwork, but their house is most likely gone. As bad as it is, others had it much worse.

            I will say that as usual, I am impressed with the community in our county. The last two days its been nothing but convoys helping get animals or people out, and many people have opened their properties for trailers and tents. Several local restaurants have been offering free meals to those displaced.

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            • #36
              inthemountains
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 139

              Was fortunate enough to visit Grizzly Flats a couple of years back, friends Uncle who passed away last year had a super nice house there. Probably did not survive the fire.

              The pool house was bigger than the house I live in. Beautiful county up there.

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              • #37
                iropem
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 36

                Cali now is a “perfect storm” for these fires. Actually the whole west is intermittently but California is and always has been the wildfire glory state, increasingly so, to the death and detriment of its residents and businesses. Here is why:
                Mediterranean climate with common droughts and common foehn winds all of which sets the stage for disaster.
                Fire friendly fuel loading at every elevation that needs frequent low intensity fire to be healthy.
                Extremely rough and rugged terrain, lots of which is inaccessible to suppress small initial attack fires regardless of aircraft.
                All out fire suppression since 1910 which had led to a mess of choked forests and lots of dead component.
                Crazy CRAZY CRAZY state and federal environmental laws.
                Widespread limiting of prescribed fire and VMP burns.
                Widespread limiting of responsible logging and grazing
                Insane unabated building in historical fire corridors.
                Population explosion for 30 years in wildland intermix/interface areas.
                Limiting transfer of power lines underground in all intermix/interface areas.
                Competition for resources when multiple starts get going which just means all the fires get bigger.

                This is not an exhaustive list but is accurate IMO

                the single biggest issue is corrupt policies, mismanagement and “leadership” in Sacramento for 50 years and definitely not climate change ( “climate change” does give them a good scapegoat to absolve them of responsibility and yet keeps the money flowing)
                Last edited by iropem; 08-18-2021, 9:44 AM.

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                • #38
                  user120312
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 5759

                  CalFire info page, updated about an hour ago...

                  A bit surprised only 242 personnel on the fire considering it's over 60K acres with zero containment. Short of resources would match the scanner chatter I was listening to yesterday.

                  Looks like they upgraded the northeast sector warning to an order. Winds are expected to shift to an easterly flow after mid-day, hope the fire doesn't gain a foothold in the American River canyon along 50 that's pretty virgin and a wind funnel, plus a lot of structures along there.

                  This roughly 100 minutes of raw helo footage from KCRA chronicles yesterday's nastiness pretty well.
                  LiveCopter 3 has view over the Caldor Fire burning in El Dorado County



                  God be with the residents and defenders.

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                  • #39
                    DaveInOroValley
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 8967

                    Have a friend that's been fighting the current fires, he goes where ever needed.

                    I remember a day when The Forest Service used to have these camps in the Sierra that were filled with low level offenders and all they used to do was clean and clear cut the dead and dying undergrowth.

                    The prisoners loved being in the outdoors and while hard work it was better than looking at bars all day. Back then I sure don't remember ever having a problem with out of control fires happening.
                    NRA Life Member

                    Vet since 1978

                    "Don't bother me with facts, Son. I've already made up my mind." -Foghorn Leghorn

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                    • #40
                      Sierra57
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 5121

                      There has been a lot of home building all up and down the Sierras over the last 50 years. I have heard people (usually coastal urbanistas) say that others should not be allowed to live in the mountains in outlying areas. My reply is that people should not be allowed to live in areas where there is the potential for a major earthquake, which leaves them like " Uuuuuuhhh....."

                      Going further with that mindset, we should not allow building in areas that are prone to hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, blizzards, landslides, etc. That eliminates about 99% of the US.
                      ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                      * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                      * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                      * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                      * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                      • #41
                        USMCmatt
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 803

                        Great...there will be more smoke in Utah because of this. Get your **** together California.
                        Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
                        ______________________________________
                        USMC OEF Veteran

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                        • #42
                          Jason_2111
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 3831

                          Hell of a day yesterday... We got evacuated. Managed to get all of the guns out, plus the first dang thing I grabbed was all of my primers and powder.

                          We're expecting to lose the Freedom Bunker... This one is a bad one and going crazy. With God's will and some luck, maybe not... We'll just have to see what happens.

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                          • #43
                            jon94520
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 762

                            Originally posted by tuolumnejim
                            Its going to be a bad one, I saw the smoke plume rising from my house in Stagecoach, Nevada this morning.

                            Check this video its hotter than hades.



                            WOW, that is roaring
                            BUY AMERICAN

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                            • #44
                              Redeyedrider
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1731

                              Originally posted by TacFan
                              WTF is going on with all these fires ? Has to be arson ... don't tell me it's climate change

                              https://twitter.com/i/status/1427826304808755208
                              Originally posted by the_tunaman
                              Forestry mis-management
                              This. And climate change is real.... The climate has always been changing. I don't think anybody in their right mind would deny that.
                              We have too much to lose and so we'll lose it all - sd_shooter
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                              It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's impossible to win an argument with a stupid person - Whitefang
                              TRUMP/NUNES

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                              • #45
                                BrokerB
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 5279

                                well after a few more years of large fires we will have a few decades for no gigantic fires as all the old growth/undergrowth is burnt up. Over the last 27 years in Sacramento valley ,not until the last 6 years, have we had summers full of smoke.
                                Beans and Bullets

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