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  • #16
    Pinto
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 2317

    They have Aero Commander up mapping the Caldor fire that's now moved on to mapping the Dixie fire.


    N501TC - https://www.flightradar24.com/N501TC/28d1fc36

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    • #17
      harbormaster
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 4847

      It sickens me environmentalist blame MMGW and ignore their own impacts on our state.
      1. Compared to what?
      2. At what cost?
      3. What hard evidence do you have?

      T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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      • #18
        Sierra57
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 4511

        The fire has moved so fast that none of the acreage calculations on various fire mapping sites are even close to accurate. A talking head on the 6 o'clock news said 30,000 acres, and he also said that estimate was a couple of hours old. I'm thinking it is over 50,000.
        ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
        * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
        * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
        * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
        * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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        • #19
          tuolumnejim
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2008
          • 10830

          Its going to be a bad one, I saw the smoke plume rising from my house in Stagecoach, Nevada this morning.

          Check this video its hotter than hades.



          In a state where corruption abounds, laws must be very numerous.
          Publius Cornelius Scipio

          Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.
          ― Thomas Jefferson

          Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
          John Adams

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          • #20
            Cali-Glock
            In Memoriam
            • Mar 2005
            • 3890

            Originally posted by Sierra57
            This fire started on Sunday and was growing slowly until last night. This is another fire that got away from USFS.

            Looks like it's only a couple of miles away from Highway 50 now. If we get a north wind, it could also go south towards Highway 88.



            https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/%3F/%3F/38.6532/-120.4484/12
            Yes, there are some annoyed people. The folks in Grizzly Flats were pushing for an aggressive stance on this fire when it was started and the authorities repeatedly reassured the community they had nothing to worry about.

            Last night/morning was a different story - Amador and El Dorado Deputies everywhere pulling people off the hill. Cal-Fire and fire trucks from agencies all over were all over Grizzly Flat road. I honestly believe they kept people from dying Monday Night/Tuesday morning.

            I know a senior CCF field management who normally runs a command out of McClellan AFB overseeing these types of fires but he has personal ties to Grizzly Flats and apparently chose to be on scene instead of at a remote command center. Questionable perhaps, but it is another sign to me of just how seriously everyone took this fire when it did blow up Monday night.

            Other than a couple of cat-naps in my truck today, I have not slept since Sunday.

            In this thread alone I have already violated opsec than I have in total over the past two plus decades online. (I had zero online Opsec in the early-mid 1990s) So what the hell. In a few weeks just forget this thread and what I say here. I will try to shut up after this statement: I am fine and grateful, but this has been difficult. The wonderful thing is the amazing positive attitude that everyone has; I have spent the night communicating with friend after friend who has lost everything but the shirt on their backs, a vehicle and some pets and to a person they are all positive and encouraging one another. As I write this I just got word from a close friend that he has confirmation that his house is indeed gone.




            This was taken this evening at Ice House Road on Highway 50!

            1 Corinthians 2:2

            "Orwell was an Optimist" - Cali-Glock
            "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal Reynolds

            Freedom Week: March 29-April 6, 2019 // Freedom Day: April 23-24, 2020 - Thank you, Judge Benitez!
            NRA - Endowment Member // CRPA - Life Member (Disclaimer: Everything I write is fiction. I am just here to try out ideas for my to-be-written great-American-novel.)

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            • #21
              Misterclick
              Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 481

              My heart goes out to everyone impacted whether just evacuated or nothing to come back to after. Fires are relentless and brutal. Just having to leave what is supposed to be your safe harbor is for wrenching.

              Pray and thank the firefighters!

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              • #22
                Cali-Glock
                In Memoriam
                • Mar 2005
                • 3890

                Originally posted by Wheelin4
                A 12' wide street doesn't mean **** to a crown fire driven by wind. We live in the forest and trees up here are 100+ feet tall.
                Exactly. Check out the flames roaring over the tops of those 100 foot tall trees.

                It is insane. Fire breaks, 100+ foot clear areas around homes are great, but if have a real fire, none of that means anything.

                I was in the 1990 Painted Cave Fire in Santa Barbara. The fire went from the top of the mountain behind Santa Barbara, though neighborhood after neighborhood and at about 6pm it jumped a six lane freeway (plus frontage roads) and immediately lit up the neighborhood on the other side. If a fire is not going to slow down for a 6 lane freeway, no amount of fire-safe preps are going to do anything to thwart a fire like we are witnessing in the Caldor Fire. (Or any of the other big fires we have had in recent years.)

                Poor forest management is the big problem... the other problem are the idiots who live in such a place.



                1 Corinthians 2:2

                "Orwell was an Optimist" - Cali-Glock
                "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal Reynolds

                Freedom Week: March 29-April 6, 2019 // Freedom Day: April 23-24, 2020 - Thank you, Judge Benitez!
                NRA - Endowment Member // CRPA - Life Member (Disclaimer: Everything I write is fiction. I am just here to try out ideas for my to-be-written great-American-novel.)

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                • #23
                  Cali-Glock
                  In Memoriam
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 3890

                  Originally posted by Misterclick
                  My heart goes out to everyone impacted whether just evacuated or nothing to come back to after. Fires are relentless and brutal. Just having to leave what is supposed to be your safe harbor is for wrenching.

                  Pray and thank the firefighters!

                  Amen!!!
                  1 Corinthians 2:2

                  "Orwell was an Optimist" - Cali-Glock
                  "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal Reynolds

                  Freedom Week: March 29-April 6, 2019 // Freedom Day: April 23-24, 2020 - Thank you, Judge Benitez!
                  NRA - Endowment Member // CRPA - Life Member (Disclaimer: Everything I write is fiction. I am just here to try out ideas for my to-be-written great-American-novel.)

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                  • #24
                    SanDiego619
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 10270

                    Originally posted by Wheelin4
                    A 12' wide street doesn't mean **** to a crown fire driven by wind. We live in the forest and trees up here are 100+ feet tall.
                    Yep, with high winds embers can blow a lot farther than 12 feet, or 120 feet, or 1200 feet.
                    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                    • #25
                      GOEX FFF
                      North Texas
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 6032

                      Originally posted by tuolumnejim
                      Its going to be a bad one, I saw the smoke plume rising from my house in Stagecoach, Nevada this morning.

                      Check this video its hotter than hades.



                      The size and height of those flames is insane.

                      Here's the same video without the talking.
                      Set the playback speed to 0.25.



                      Last edited by GOEX FFF; 08-17-2021, 11:11 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Sierra57
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 4511

                        Originally posted by Cali-Glock
                        Yes, there are some annoyed people. The folks in Grizzly Flats were pushing for an aggressive stance on this fire when it was started and the authorities repeatedly reassured the community they had nothing to worry about.

                        Last night/morning was a different story - Amador and El Dorado Deputies everywhere pulling people off the hill. Cal-Fire and fire trucks from agencies all over were all over Grizzly Flat road. I honestly believe they kept people from dying Monday Night/Tuesday morning.

                        I know a senior CCF field management who normally runs a command out of McClellan AFB overseeing these types of fires but he has personal ties to Grizzly Flats and apparently chose to be on scene instead of at a remote command center. Questionable perhaps, but it is another sign to me of just how seriously everyone took this fire when it did blow up Monday night.

                        Other than a couple of cat-naps in my truck today, I have not slept since Sunday.

                        In this thread alone I have already violated opsec than I have in total over the past two plus decades online. (I had zero online Opsec in the early-mid 1990s) So what the hell. In a few weeks just forget this thread and what I say here. I will try to shut up after this statement: I am fine and grateful, but this has been difficult. The wonderful thing is the amazing positive attitude that everyone has; I have spent the night communicating with friend after friend who has lost everything but the shirt on their backs, a vehicle and some pets and to a person they are all positive and encouraging one another. As I write this I just got word from a close friend that he has confirmation that his house is indeed gone.




                        This was taken this evening at Ice House Road on Highway 50!

                        The USFS also reassured the public that everything was okay on the Tamarack Fire near Markleeville over a month ago, and a wind that came up caused that fire to take off after doing little for a few days. They could have easily knocked that fire down. I'm not sure what BS excuse they used on that fire. We could see the pyrocumulus clouds from Fallen Leaf every afternoon and evening while we were there.
                        ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                        * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                        * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                        * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                        * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                        • #27
                          Cali-Glock
                          In Memoriam
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 3890

                          Originally posted by SanDiego619
                          Yep, with high winds embers can blow a lot farther than 12 feet, or 120 feet, or 1200 feet.
                          The leading edge of the fire is made up of tons of spot fires which started by those embers blowing out in front of the main fire. Shifting winds also send spot fires off into other directions besides the primary leading front as well.
                          1 Corinthians 2:2

                          "Orwell was an Optimist" - Cali-Glock
                          "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal Reynolds

                          Freedom Week: March 29-April 6, 2019 // Freedom Day: April 23-24, 2020 - Thank you, Judge Benitez!
                          NRA - Endowment Member // CRPA - Life Member (Disclaimer: Everything I write is fiction. I am just here to try out ideas for my to-be-written great-American-novel.)

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                          • #28
                            Sierra57
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 4511

                            Originally posted by SanDiego619
                            Yep, with high winds embers can blow a lot farther than 12 feet, or 120 feet, or 1200 feet.
                            My brother was in the middle of the Oakland Hills firestorm. He saw the embers dropping down from way up the hill and across the 24/13 interchange and Lake Temescal, and start fires in the upper Rockridge neighborhood.
                            ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                            * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                            * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                            * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                            * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                            • #29
                              lapsbpbep
                              Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 309

                              I have family by slypark that was evacuated this morning and I also have family up in Woodford that had to evaluate. Too the ones In Woodford lost there house back in 1986 . We all hate this time of year. My prayers are with all of the people who are affected by these fires 🔥. I would love to move up in to the hills but dealing with fires is the reason I don't think keep all these people in are prayers

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                              • #30
                                Sierra57
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 4511

                                There is a spot fire now on Highway 50 at Riverton and numerous spot fires to the east of the main fire.
                                ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                                * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                                * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                                * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                                * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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