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I'm also thinking about the Saiga 12. I already have a Benelli M4 and a Beretta Pigeon over/under so I'm just looking for another range toy that is fun and different. Is the Saiga different enough that I might enjoy it? For what it's worth, I also love shooting my AK47.
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The drawback to the S12 in Cali is the mag lock.
It is slow and awkward vs feeding a tube on any other shotgun.
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The other trick is learning the extra step in loading a mag on a closed bolt.
You need to compress the front of the top round into the mag by pressing the round against the bolt then hook the front edge of the mag and rock to the rear.
Some will advise grinding down the bolt to make more room and others will simply hold the bolt open with the firing hand while inserting a fresh mag.Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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You need this!Last edited by rubbman; 08-01-2015, 4:34 PM.I once pondered over the debate of 9mm vs. .40, then I was introduced to .38 super and 10mm and forgot all about it.Comment
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+1 Benelli M4. 7 shots in 2 seconds....I feel safe...Comment
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Love my Benelli M4Comment
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I was in the same boat as you. I really was leaning towards a saiga but after reading and reading about them on different fourms I went for the vepr. It cost more but if you figure in the work you will be doing on the saiga it brings the price alot closer Happy with my choice. My brother has the benneli cant go wrong there either.Comment
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Oh ....Holy crap vepr mags cost a fortune.Comment
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While I don't have one, the nice sales person at Reed's Indoor Range let me hold a Benelli M4 even though I told him I wasn't buying right away.
You should go try it, the M4 is weighted deliciously just right and the M16 styled Ghost Ring is very easy to aim with, especially if you're going to be shooting slugs.
I would've bought it except that wife prefers the Benelli SuperSports to shoot skeet with.Comment
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Get the Saiga 12!!! This was mine, sometimes I wish I hadn't sold it
Originally posted by Bobby RiciglianoOriginally posted by NutnfancyComment
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They have saigas on sale at turners right now, saw it i their weekly ad online.Comment
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I ended up getting a raptor a tac from tristar, semi auto also at turners for 299.Comment
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The S12 is a fun gun but definitely not my "go-to". If this will be your first and possibly only semi auto, I think there are much better shotguns out there. Benelli M1/M2 is absolutely a wonder shotgun. You can probably find one used in that price range. If you are hard set on 800, look into the spx or even a Remington 1100. Again, the S12 is fun but the mag lock really is a killjoy. Then you have to factor in the cost of mags and 922r compliance parts if you start converting it. You can have 1200+ into it after everything is said and done with it after tax, mags and conversion parts. They do have their quirks and in my experience, not nearly as reliable as any of the other semi auto's I have owned or used. A lot is dependent on the ammo and for a blaster like that, I run wali world bulk pack federal(don't bother with Winchester at all) but all my other firearms eat it up no problem.
KevinComment
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They have it right. If you can afford it get the M4... I have a Vepr 12... Rem 1100 tactical... and FN SLP as well and the Benelli is the best of them all... not to say I don't really the others (I do) but I believe the M4 is the best of tactical semi auto shotguns.Comment
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why bother with a detachable magazine designed shotgun that needs a maglock and a conversion?Originally posted by SBCZILLA (ARFCOM)Comment
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