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  • NRai2001
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 904

    Saiga 12

    Hey guys,

    What do you guys think of the saiga 12 gauge out there right now? Are most people happy with them? Do most people keep them long term? Or are they more of a novelty gun? Any opinions on them?

    Also what is a good price on them these days?

    Thanks
    -Tim
    WTB:
    TAVOR
    SCAR 17
    Benelli m4/m2
  • #2
    Dantedamean
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 2293

    I love mine, I've had it for about a year. I use it for home defense. I couldn't be happier with it.

    ETA: I payed about 1300 for mine. It was just before all the panic buying.

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    • #3
      kalieracer
      Veteran Member
      • May 2008
      • 2987

      Great gun, takes drums..

      "Gawd, asks a qustion, gets two good answers, denies/ still doesn't get it.

      This is the kinda person that shouldn't be building things- go store bought.
      Bill Wiese"

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      • #4
        mreazyone
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 33

        i love mine too.love taking it out everyone around start to smile when i pull it out the bag. i have the most fun letting other people shot it for the first time. i paid 1200 for it 1 1/2 -2 years ago

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        • #5
          vintagedude88
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2034

          The going rate for a bone stock IZ109 is about 700 - 800.

          I can honestly tell you that you will not leave it alone. Its about as bad as getting a bone stock AR. You will be constantly looking to add things to it.

          First and formost will be the conversion. However, you can pay more and get one that is already converted.

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          • #6
            NRai2001
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 904

            Originally posted by vintagedude88
            The going rate for a bone stock IZ109 is about 700 - 800.

            I can honestly tell you that you will not leave it alone. Its about as bad as getting a bone stock AR. You will be constantly looking to add things to it.

            First and formost will be the conversion. However, you can pay more and get one that is already converted.
            How much would a converted one cost these days? Prepanic?
            WTB:
            TAVOR
            SCAR 17
            Benelli m4/m2

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            • #7
              Dantedamean
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 2293

              Originally posted by NRai2001
              How much would a converted one cost these days? Prepanic?
              Here's where I got mine:
              Best selection of shotguns for sale. We have pump action, semi automatic, bullpup shotguns and home defense shotguns for your every need.


              It seems prices are back down to pre panic prices.

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              • #8
                Jet Setter
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2012
                • 5348

                I see them for $1000 unconverted and $1400 converted. They seem nice but I know some folks that paid $600 for theirs a year or so ago. Can't justify that unless it is a Vepr 12. Even then it is still too expensive.
                *********************
                WTS:
                1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
                2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
                3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)

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                • #9
                  kalieracer
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 2987

                  Originally posted by Jet Setter
                  I see them for $1000 unconverted and $1400 converted. They seem nice but I know some folks that paid $600 for theirs a year or so ago. Can't justify that unless it is a Vepr 12. Even then it is still too expensive.

                  Converted ones were always around 1100 + in cali. I got mine in 2008 and paid about 1200 before I upgraded it. The Vepr 12 is its own beast, but it doesn't take drum mags.

                  "Gawd, asks a qustion, gets two good answers, denies/ still doesn't get it.

                  This is the kinda person that shouldn't be building things- go store bought.
                  Bill Wiese"

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                  • #10
                    hermosabeach
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19605

                    The only quirk is learning to change the mag.

                    You need to compress the front of the top shell into the mag and then you hook the front of the mag and rock it in as normal.

                    The mag lock on the AK platform is awkward at best.
                    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                    • #11
                      vintagedude88
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2034

                      Originally posted by Jet Setter
                      I see them for $1000 unconverted and $1400 converted. They seem nice but I know some folks that paid $600 for theirs a year or so ago. Can't justify that unless it is a Vepr 12. Even then it is still too expensive.
                      They were on sale at Turners for 799 a couple of weeks back. Store clerk said they were sold out within the first day.

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                      • #12
                        vintagedude88
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2034

                        Originally posted by NRai2001
                        How much would a converted one cost these days? Prepanic?
                        Convert it yourself. Its not hard and CSS has all the videos to help.

                        You can convert one for as little as $150 in parts.

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                        • #13
                          vintagedude88
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2034

                          Originally posted by hermosabeach
                          You need to compress the front of the top shell into the mag and then you hook the front of the mag and rock it in as normal.
                          Its not an issue if you have the bolt and carrier profiled and polished.

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                          • #14
                            NRai2001
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 904

                            Originally posted by kalieracer
                            Converted ones were always around 1100 + in cali. I got mine in 2008 and paid about 1200 before I upgraded it. The Vepr 12 is its own beast, but it doesn't take drum mags.
                            What sorts of upgrades?
                            WTB:
                            TAVOR
                            SCAR 17
                            Benelli m4/m2

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                            • #15
                              Dantedamean
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2293

                              Originally posted by NRai2001
                              What sorts of upgrades?

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