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  • #16
    PolishMike
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 6034

    Originally posted by ke6guj
    as in you wouldn't be able to use SSI as a way to comply with the roster regulations anymore. So, it would be limited to those that are roster-exempt, like LEOs.

    Or, we could try to talk Mark Serbu into getting the Super Shorty drop-tested and listed on the roster
    Just figured I would mention that this, albeit farfetched, idea went out the window with the certification of microstamping.

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    • #17
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15595

      Unless you have an AOW in progress right now, I think the door is shutting as far as owning one in California. By the time your stamp comes, there will be no more SSE.

      Sad. Glad I got in right before the door closed.
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      • #18
        newglockster
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1592

        I was wanting to get a 12ga AOW in January, forgot about now, now this...
        John 3:16

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        • #19
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by PolishMike
          Just figured I would mention that this, albeit farfetched, idea went out the window with the certification of microstamping.

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          well, I don't see microstamping required for pump-action handugns

          it appears that microstamping is only required for semi-auto handguns, not that "just revolvers are exempt from it".

          31910. As used in this part, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol,
          revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
          person, for which any of the following is true:

          (7) (A) Commencing January 1, 2010, for all semiautomatic pistols
          that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 32015,
          it is not designed and equipped with a microscopic array of
          characters that identify the make, model, and serial number of the
          pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in two or more places on the
          interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that
          are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm
          is fired, provided that the Department of Justice certifies that the
          technology used to create the imprint is available to more than one
          manufacturer unencumbered by any patent restrictions.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #20
            PolishMike
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2007
            • 6034

            Originally posted by ke6guj
            well, I don't see microstamping required for pump-action handugns

            it appears that microstamping is only required for semi-auto handguns, not that "just revolvers are exempt from it".

            31910. As used in this part, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol,
            revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
            person, for which any of the following is true:

            (7) (A) Commencing January 1, 2010, for all semiautomatic pistols
            that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 32015,
            it is not designed and equipped with a microscopic array of
            characters that identify the make, model, and serial number of the
            pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in two or more places on the
            interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that
            are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm
            is fired, provided that the Department of Justice certifies that the
            technology used to create the imprint is available to more than one
            manufacturer unencumbered by any patent restrictions.
            Schooled again. Didnt even think of that. This is purely academic anyway I doubt Serbu would submit the super shorty - or if the testing center or someone would have a SOT to even facilitate the transfer

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            • #21
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              Originally posted by PolishMike
              Schooled again. Didnt even think of that. This is purely academic anyway I doubt Serbu would submit the super shorty - or if the testing center or someone would have a SOT to even facilitate the transfer

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              exactly. but could you imagine the drama at CADOJ if he did get it tested, it passed, and they had to list it on the roster. If they refused, that would be a fun lawsuit, them refusing to list a CA-legal firearm that passed the roster test.

              And yes, I don't even know if any of the testing facilities even have an SOT, so it might be moot. But that's another lawsuit angle, even being prohibited from having your otherwise CA-legal firearm prohibited from being on the roster because there are no testing facilities in the country legally allowed to test it.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #22
                Capybara
                CGSSA Coordinator
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2012
                • 15595

                Anything we can fight them with and drag them into court with sounds fine by me ;-)
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                • #23
                  joefrank64k
                  @ the Dark End of the Bar
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 10124

                  Originally posted by Capybara
                  Unless you have an AOW in progress right now, I think the door is shutting as far as owning one in California. By the time your stamp comes, there will be no more SSE.

                  Sad. Glad I got in right before the door closed.
                  You and me both...I was near my AOW when I was DROS'ing another SSE at EBR Works last Saturday. So close, yet so far.
                  You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                  If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                  Come on...what harm??

                  joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                  • #24
                    Capybara
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 15595

                    I know, I have visited mine twice while buying other guns there. It keeps whispering to me, "take me home, soon you will take me home."
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                    • #25
                      fast54vw
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 637

                      just got a call this afternoon, telling me the stamp is in. And wouldnt you know it, now ive got to wait a little longer because of the 1 in 30 thing. Somehow i knew this was gonna happen
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                      • #26
                        Go Navy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 2186

                        What is "AOW"?
                        USN Veteran, Gun Owners of Calif. Member, NRA Life Member

                        You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We'll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we'll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness. (Ronald Reagan, 1964)

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                        • #27
                          Simply115
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 2265

                          Originally posted by Go Navy
                          What is "AOW"?
                          Any Other Weapon.


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                          • #28
                            Nicoman
                            Guardian of masculinity
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 1320

                            Congrats on the stamp, super bummer on the extra wait time

                            Originally posted by fast54vw
                            just got a call this afternoon, telling me the stamp is in. And wouldnt you know it, now ive got to wait a little longer because of the 1 in 30 thing. Somehow i knew this was gonna happen
                            Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
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                            Originally posted by Nutnfancy
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                            • #29
                              Capybara
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 15595

                              Originally posted by fast54vw
                              just got a call this afternoon, telling me the stamp is in. And wouldnt you know it, now ive got to wait a little longer because of the 1 in 30 thing. Somehow i knew this was gonna happen
                              When did you apply for the stamp?
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                              • #30
                                joefrank64k
                                @ the Dark End of the Bar
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 10124

                                Originally posted by fast54vw
                                just got a call this afternoon, telling me the stamp is in. And wouldnt you know it, now ive got to wait a little longer because of the 1 in 30 thing. Somehow i knew this was gonna happen
                                Haha!!! The fates are messing with you!

                                How long did it take you to get your stamp?
                                You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                                If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                                Come on...what harm??

                                joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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