UTAS UTS 15

[Arkangel]

If any one is looking for one, TDS guns in Bonita posted on FB that they have two available, $1300. If I had the $$$, I would be all over them.

[Arkangel]

Thanks for the heads up, I hope they work the issues out.

[k1dude]

There are just as many reviews saying they are fine. Many prefer them over the KSG. The KSG has just as many good and bad reviews.

Many of the initial problems with both guns have been addressed and resolved by UTAS and Kel-Tec. Introducing a new and revolutionary product never goes smoothly. Even Glock had it's growing pains. But very few would call a Glock cr@p or a POS today.

Part of the ongoing problem is simple operator error. It seems many people short stroke them. Moreso than full size pump shotguns.

[WootSauce]

Nutnfancy shooting the UTS 15

*warning, he says a naughty word...

[Dannicus]

It doesn't seem to be being advertised, but there have been a number of changes to the UTAS addressing the reliability issues. Guns serial number 1000+ seem to be working fine.

[Mitch]

Part of the ongoing problem is simple operator error. It seems many people short stroke them. Moreso than full size pump shotguns.

My experience with a pre-release KSG is all the issues are operator-related. The more we use this shotgun the fewer problems we have. If fact, a typical shooter generally experiences no issues at all after putting 15 or 20 rounds through a KSG.

[MrExel17]

OP not worth it, all reviews point to POS. Was thinking about getting myself until I seen all the reviews.

[alfred1222]

There are just as many reviews saying they are fine. Many prefer them over the KSG. The KSG has just as many good and bad reviews.

Many of the initial problems with both guns have been addressed and resolved by UTAS and Kel-Tec. Introducing a new and revolutionary product never goes smoothly. Even Glock had it's growing pains. But very few would call a Glock cr@p or a POS today.

Part of the ongoing problem is simple operator error. It seems many people short stroke them. Moreso than full size pump shotguns.

Incorrect. The UTAS is a POS that they cobbled together to compete with the KSG. It falls short in every way possible

[Arkangel]

Well it actually works out in my benefit that the general consensus is POS. Had I had the extra $3k burning a hole in my pocket, I might have skipped my due diligence process and made an impulse buy or two (one for me, the other for the wifey) based on the few positive reviews I had seen.

Thinking of them as poor quality helps quiet that crazy monkey on my back constantly screaming for me to buy new toys

[rbetts]

Dont forget Nutnfancy is a poser for the KSG as well. His "Scientific" review of the UTAS was comical. The UTAS designer used the Nutnfancy gripes to make a few adjustments to the gun and its no longer the POS that folks that dont have one are calling it. We sell them and as such were keenly interested in the reviews and face to face discussions with the designers and owners at the Shot show prior to writing a big check for them. So far the 30 plus folks that have them from our store haven't had any issues. As for the KSG. . . . . .still waiting for the manufacturer to . . . . .oh well. . . .

[RealFitness]

The KSG issues have been WAY less than the UTS.

Yes both had issues but the keltec's were minor things at first launch like failure to feed (fixed simply by stroking again)

The UTS had issues like ooh... critical parts braking entirely at random, doublefeed, upsidedown feed. Reciever cover braking (because you had the nerve to fire a round!)

I've personally used the KSG and it was great, no failures. Also it feels very well designed. That was a newer KSG not a launch model.

The UTS Looks cool untill you actualy see how it works (or indeed doesn't work). The feed chamber is WAY oversized and wackily designed, theres so much extra space in there and the follower is this little twig thing that looks like its from a toy. This design is so poor that even if the thing were made entirely of metal it still wouldnt be reliable.

Bad reviews aside, its poorly designed clump of plastic (which is a shame because its a cool idea)

[Endless]

Incorrect. The UTAS is a POS that they cobbled together to compete with the KSG. It falls short in every way possible

Actually you are incorrect and thats pretty much a fact. If you are not an owner of a current generation, regardless of what you think or think you know, you have no fricken clue what you are talking about. But I wont continue to bash your flawed comment and if you have seen my review you may understand more about it.

Today is 13APR13 and all issues with the UTS15 are corrected. Fact.

I dont see any kids bashing a post sample full auto KRISS Super V when it came out or SBR KRISS Super V, oh wait you guys in California cant own them. Darn. LMAO.

I addressed a few issues with the KRISS when it was released (bought 3 of them) because I had to have it. A lot of similar issues with a launch gun. It happens, and you guys/gals need to get over it because all items are fixed. KRISS USA fixed all my issues and I even spoke at length with the R&D guys about the gun. Same thing with the UTS. Give it time.

[Endless]

I bought my Benelli M4 for $1,500 a few years ago, and Benelli had a $200 mail in rebate, so people are paying the same amount for a Turkish made pump shotgun as I did for my Italian made gas operated semi.

I sold my Benelli M4 2 years ago for about $1000 used and one of my SPAS 12s for $1500 NIB.

[Rough Gear Review]

I pick up my UTS 15 this Friday...I've heard all the bad and good opinions on them but I like to decide for myself. Looking forward to shooting it.

[negolien]

Opinions are like well.. we know how that goes. Peoples opinions are just that opinions and some people should realize their word isn't gospel. People gripe and complain about every weapon on the market. Please offer your opinions & experiances and move on. If you haven't run the weapon maybe you shouldn't offer an opinion. Just sayin....