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  • bswp
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    • Apr 2008
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    Big 5 specials = seconds/rejects?

    In perusing some of the shotgun threads here, I saw a subtle undercurrent indicating that the guns on discounted sale at Big 5 are of lesser quality than those one would find at retail, elsewhere.

    Any truth to this? Or, just a healthy bias against chain stores that crowd out the independents?
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    Fjold
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    • Oct 2005
    • 22981

    It's the same BS that they say about Walmart guns in the free states. It's just the anti-chain store mentality.
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    • #3
      nic
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 1289

      I had a Big 5 Mossberg 500 about a year ago (sold because I needed cash to pay bills). It was exactly the same fit, finish and functionwise as any other Mossberg 500 I'd seen or handled anywhere else.
      FWIW.
      -Nic

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      • #4
        daves100
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 943

        mossberg 500

        had the same gun also Mossberg 500 was on sale for 229.00 came with 2 barrels. went to my local FFL and asked him if he could get me a better deal. he said hell no jump on the Big 5 sale. was told they buy them by the truck load and get the biggest discounts.

        great gun

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        • #5
          Got Stuff?
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          • Aug 2006
          • 1580

          If you do some research, you will find that items from wal mart usually have different specs....and even different country of origin (manufacture) than the same exact product sold elswhere.

          A difference in quality? Most times yes. The info and proof is out there. Just need to look for it.
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          • #6
            tombinghamthegreat
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            • May 2007
            • 2785

            Most of the big 5 guns are not that great but the mossberg 500/590 is a great price and the mossberg at big 5 is the samething as the other gun stores.
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            • #7
              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 22981

              Originally posted by Got Stuff?
              If you do some research, you will find that items from wal mart usually have different specs....and even different country of origin (manufacture) than the same exact product sold elswhere.

              A difference in quality? Most times yes. The info and proof is out there. Just need to look for it.
              The OP is talking about guns. The guns that Walmart or Big 5 sell are identical to the same brand guns purchased anywhere else.
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              • #8
                BaronW
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 989

                I know the Big 5 Marlin 1894's have slightly less fancy stocks, but are functionally equivalent and a great deal. I'm saving up for a .357
                I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  They typically get only one model and it is normally the cheapest most stripped down version that is being made. But, they function exactly the same as the same gun with a higher grade stock, etc. As far as thier surplus stuff goes, I've heard of some great finds at Big5s including SS marked Mausers for $79! You really have to get lucky but, you never know what you may find there.
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                  • #10
                    packnrat
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3939

                    now why would a manf of any product make a "cheeper" ver of one of there items...can you say law suite...possible product damage. injury, etc,etc.

                    one would think all of a given line of items would be mostly the same...now if the orignal item was built say in the good ol usa, then latter ones built cheeper in say china. then would the quality control still be the same??

                    now if we were talking wigets, no real problem, but here it is guns, cheeper would / could bring about a major lawsuite??





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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      Originally posted by packnrat
                      now why would a manf of any product make a "cheeper" ver of one of there items...can you say law suite...possible product damage. injury, etc,etc.

                      one would think all of a given line of items would be mostly the same...now if the orignal item was built say in the good ol usa, then latter ones built cheeper in say china. then would the quality control still be the same??

                      now if we were talking wigets, no real problem, but here it is guns, cheeper would / could bring about a major lawsuite??





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                      Maybe you don't understand that cheaper wood or a cheaper finish won't affect the function of a gun one bit. How would a cheaper wood or a cheaper plastic stock cause a lawsuit?
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                      • #12
                        NIB
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                        • Oct 2005
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                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        Maybe you don't understand that cheaper wood or a cheaper finish won't affect the function of a gun one bit. How would a cheaper wood or a cheaper plastic stock cause a lawsuit?
                        When you fire the first shot and the wood stock breaks there by impaling the broken stock about 4-5 inches deep into your shoulder would be grounds for a good lawsuit.

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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
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                          Originally posted by NIB
                          When you fire the first shot and the wood stock breaks there by impaling the broken stock about 4-5 inches deep into your shoulder would be grounds for a good lawsuit.
                          They don't used flawwed wood just, straight grained, not so pretty wood. Winchester, Marlin, Remington, etc. have all been doing this for 60+ years. Millons of these "less attractive guns" have been made for Sears, Montgomery Wards, etc. and I'm not aware of anything like what you are suggesting ever having happened. As a matter of fact, I'm having a hard time believing that recoil from any gun could cause enough force to break a stock and impale it 4-5 inches. Could you provide the data you used to come up with this senerio.
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                          • #14
                            WokMaster1
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                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            They don't used flawwed wood just, straight grained, not so pretty wood. Winchester, Marlin, Remington, etc. have all been doing this for 60+ years. Millons of these "less attractive guns" have been made for Sears, Montgomery Wards, etc. and I'm not aware of anything like what you are suggesting ever having happened. As a matter of fact, I'm having a hard time believing that recoil from any gun could cause enough force to break a stock and impale it 4-5 inches. Could you provide the data you used to come up with this senerio.
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                            • #15
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              I'd say its more like buying a Ferrari that needs a paint job.
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