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  • #46
    -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Originally posted by whatpain
    so many haters on this site. really??? does it take 4 people to point out he paid more then msrp?? we all know he did and im sure he knows too. if he has the money let him have his fun. this isnt the wall street journal forum for money advice its a gun forum. i say good for you bro. and she shoots good too!!!
    Haters? wtf?

    OP asked for opinions. He didn't, as I read the first post, ask for positive opinions only.

    I still say that I and he both understood he paid a premium for the weapon. He and I both think that's just peachy.

    -hanko
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    • #47
      skyscraper
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 5198

      Originally posted by -hanko
      Haters? wtf?

      OP asked for opinions. He didn't, as I read the first post, ask for positive opinions only.

      I still say that I and he both understood he paid a premium for the weapon. He and I both think that's just peachy.

      -hanko
      Where did he ask for opinions on the price?

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      • #48
        21SF
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3491

        Wow what a rip off, kel tec really over hyped these.
        SA TRP Half rail, Glock 21SF, Spikes St-15, Ruger Alaskan .44, Saiga 7.62, GSSF Member
        Diablo Rod & Gun Club
        Originally posted by keenkeen
        "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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        • #49
          21SF
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 3491

          Originally posted by 21SF
          Wow what a rip off, kel tec really over hyped these.
          Originally posted by joefrank64k
          OP, thanks for the range report! I'm hoping you'll write-up a long term review addressing any build-quality issues that come up.

          As for the financial planners in this thread, it's crazy what envy will make people write, isn't it?
          ITs really not envy, I could care less what he blows his money on. Its the fact that hype works even when people know what the msrp is suppose to be.


          I cant stand stuff that gets hyped up and price driven through the roof.

          Like the saiga 12, $250 shotgun hyped into a 700+ dollar shotgun.

          Keltec could have postponed the release of these until they had the supply to meet the demand, instead they took advantage of it.

          Which is why they will never see a penny from me.

          Thats ridiculous, and will continue when people participate in the hype purchases.
          Last edited by 21SF; 06-20-2012, 2:48 PM.
          SA TRP Half rail, Glock 21SF, Spikes St-15, Ruger Alaskan .44, Saiga 7.62, GSSF Member
          Diablo Rod & Gun Club
          Originally posted by keenkeen
          "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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          • #50
            meaty-btz
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 8980

            Originally posted by 21SF
            Keltec could have postponed the release of these until they had the supply to meet the demand, instead they took advantage of it.
            1. Capitalism
            2. Capitalism
            3. It is business smart to take advantage of a market as long as you are not harming your market. Which, in this case it isn't. In fact more so this provides a soft entry into the market to keep complaints (failures due to new design) low and interest high.
            4. It is ALL 3rd party Sellers that are making the killing on the KSG, not Keltec, who sells to distribution warehouses, who then sell to FFLs, who then sell it on GunBroker for a 68% markup.


            All along this chain I see nothing untoward happening. I see business in action with no malign intent. Demand far outstrips supply, value increases, actual value. MSRP is irrelevant.

            Are you a communist who believes that price should be dictated by a fixed value rather than the free market value?
            ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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            • #51
              RazzB7
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 3419

              Is KelTec selling for over MSRP or are "middle men" buying from KelTec and profiting with the short supply and high demand?

              And to keep it on topic, I still think you own a sweet shotgun, OP!
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              • #52
                skyscraper
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 5198

                Originally posted by 21SF
                Wow what a rip off, kel tec really over hyped these.
                It was kel-tec that hyped these? or the internet?

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                • #53
                  menomanuel
                  Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 302

                  It's the middle man knowing how to take advantage of kel tec's low production .
                  Can't be on the edge of gun tec without putting a hole in your wallet.
                  Set me back 2 months on my gun budget .
                  Totally worth getting hated on!!!!
                  Hate hate hate hate.
                  california democratic politicians measure their success by the anti gun laws they are able to pass or force on their constituents.

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                  • #54
                    -hanko
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by skyscraper
                    Where did he ask for opinions on the price?
                    He simply asked "What do you think"...

                    Where did op request that no one comment on the price?
                    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                    • #55
                      Javi
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 4540

                      No one's "hating" on the op and he did want to know Calguns' opinions. Cool shotgun,glad that it's working as it should & happy that your happy but Keltec has left a bad taste in my mouth with not postponing and getting their production numbers higher. Shops are definitely making some nice money with those mark ups I'd buy it if it were $300-500 haha but I'm more fond of this to be honest with ya:



                      I would have gotten an FN semi-auto with an extension tube with that kind of money. The money is gone so it really doesn't matter anymore.
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                      • #56
                        MXRider
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 2927

                        Originally posted by Javi

                        I would have gotten an FN semi-auto with an extension tube with that kind of money. The money is gone so it really doesn't matter anymore.
                        I agree ^^

                        That or a Benelli M4

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                        • #57
                          eightmd
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 571

                          Do they come in 4 gauge? I want one in 4 gauge for grenades. You'll really get some questions at the range with that.

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                          • #58
                            menomanuel
                            Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 302

                            That would be a beefy gun.
                            I wonder if kel tec will take it to the next level and make semi auto...
                            Some Great guns started start as lever or pump action.
                            That's on my wish list.
                            california democratic politicians measure their success by the anti gun laws they are able to pass or force on their constituents.

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                            • #59
                              stix213
                              AKA: Joe Censored
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 19002

                              Originally posted by MXRider
                              $800 msrp

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                              I challenge you to find one for $800 in stock anywhere in the country. MSRP is meaningless. What matters is the supply vs the demand for a product, while factoring in dealer cost, which is always what sets the price.
                              Last edited by stix213; 06-20-2012, 5:57 PM.

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                              • #60
                                stix213
                                AKA: Joe Censored
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 19002

                                Originally posted by Javi
                                No one's "hating" on the op and he did want to know Calguns' opinions. Cool shotgun,glad that it's working as it should & happy that your happy but Keltec has left a bad taste in my mouth with not postponing and getting their production numbers higher. Shops are definitely making some nice money with those mark ups I'd buy it if it were $300-500 haha but I'm more fond of this to be honest with ya:



                                I would have gotten an FN semi-auto with an extension tube with that kind of money. The money is gone so it really doesn't matter anymore.
                                Thing is with Keltec they are a pretty small manufacturer. They have been putting out some very innovative designs over the last few years that have gotten them the attention level usually given to large manufacturers like Ruger or S&W when Keltec isn't set up to produce nearly the numbers of firearms the big boys can.

                                Really their only fault is becoming such a big player so fast that they can't keep up with demand. Pretty much all their guns are having the same problem, because they just can't make them fast enough. Coinciding with the Obama gun salesman of the year craze isn't helping.

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