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  • #31
    stix213
    AKA: Joe Censored
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2009
    • 18998

    My Saiga 12 with 22" barrel and adjustable polychoke hits clays just fine all day. Reloading is also not difficult. I generally just flip out my wave opening EDC knife and activate the mag release with it. If I was rushed for time I can swap the mag out and chamber a round in about 2 seconds. I don't do regulation trap, so not sure how I'd do with it, but just out shooting clays with my buddies I typically get around 90%.

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    Last edited by stix213; 05-29-2012, 5:53 PM.

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    • #32
      ysr_racer
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 12014

      Hell, I know a guy that can throw rocks and hit clays tagrets, that doesn't make it the best way to break them.

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      • #33
        TZL
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 3197

        I love saiga 12s (own 4 of them) but its far from an ideal clay weapon

        Reloading makes it a pita......which is why I'm usually sporting my Beretta A400 xtreme or my o/u

        I used my EO tech equipped akdal 1919 to bust some clays this weekend, much easier to do mag changes...compared to a S12....

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        • #34
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          Originally posted by KWalkerM
          I shoot at regulation trap with .410. Shooting clays at the 16 yd line is tough but im averaging 15-18 clays out of 25 with it whereas im hitting 23/25 with my 12 gauge autoloader with an ejector akin to a booster rocket. Thank god for shell catchers. Anyway i digress. Im not a fan of the snooty shooters either and thats why i try to shoot my .410 in their squad. Its fun as long as you dont be rude or interrupt their routine.
          That's awesome. I wish I could break the double digit mark with my .410s. Then again, I've only shot two rounds with my 870 and none with my other .410s. I can break birds nonstop at Angeles with any of my .410s. That extra 16 yards sure makes a difference. I did break a couple birds in the #5 position of a skeet range with my Routledge (.22lr smoothbore) once. But, I only took about 10 shots with it. It was at my first skeet clinic and the only time I've ever tried skeet. I did shot a 12g for the clinic.
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          • #35
            MichaelM
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 255

            As long as you are being safe, who cares if you piss off the duck hunters and master clay blasters. If they are not at risk of being harmed they should mind their own business and stop being such whiny little b*tches.

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            • #36
              yellowfin
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2007
              • 8371

              Originally posted by MichaelM
              As long as you are being safe, who cares if you piss off the duck hunters and master clay blasters.
              I care, because I WANT to piss them off then educate them once I have their attention. I want Fudd mentality eradicated from the gun owning ranks.
              "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
              Originally posted by indiandave
              In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
              Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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              • #37
                MichaelM
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 255

                Originally posted by yellowfin
                I care, because I WANT to piss them off then educate them once I have their attention. I want Fudd mentality eradicated from the gun owning ranks.
                You can't stop insane people from doing insane things. Mind your own business.

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                • #38
                  SJgunguy24
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2008
                  • 14849

                  Originally posted by MichaelM
                  You can't stop insane people from doing insane things. Mind your own business.
                  True but mixing it up and doing something beyond the norm is a good thing. That's how innovation happens. You never know what someone could come up with next.
                  I like to piss off the old farts when I bang steel at 100yards off hand right after said old fart told me I couldn't hit the side of the hill with my AK. Talk smack about my crappy CZ, so i'll hit the 100 yard steel with that, next the same thing with the Saiga 12.
                  If you don't kick that line and try something different, you never know what your capable of.
                  There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                  The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                  The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                  The others, well......they just never learn.

                  "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                  Patrick Henry.

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                  • #39
                    MichaelM
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 255

                    Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                    True but mixing it up and doing something beyond the norm is a good thing. That's how innovation happens. You never know what someone could come up with next.
                    I like to piss off the old farts when I bang steel at 100yards off hand right after said old fart told me I couldn't hit the side of the hill with my AK. Talk smack about my crappy CZ, so i'll hit the 100 yard steel with that, next the same thing with the Saiga 12.
                    If you don't kick that line and try something different, you never know what your capable of.
                    No doubt, I don't think its insane I was just quoting the guys signature who was complaining about people having fun at the range with different toys.

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                    • #40
                      ysr_racer
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 12014

                      I know trap shooters who cry like little girls at the sight of a Rem 1100. They'd stroke out at the sight of that thing.

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                      • #41
                        GettoPhilosopher
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1814

                        Originally posted by ysr_racer
                        I know trap shooters who cry like little girls at the sight of a Rem 1100. They'd stroke out at the sight of that thing.

                        Why do you think I'm so tempted to show up at a skeet clinic with my evil, black, russian, cylinder bore, muzzle brake'd, foregrip'd Saiga 12?

                        Who knows if I'd do good or suck, but it'd be fun.

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                        • #42
                          CSACANNONEER
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 44093

                          Originally posted by GettoPhilosopher
                          Why do you think I'm so tempted to show up at a skeet clinic with my evil, black, russian, cylinder bore, muzzle brake'd, foregrip'd Saiga 12?

                          Who knows if I'd do good or suck, but it'd be fun.
                          Most ranges have rules regarding barrel lengths, PGs, etc. So, chances are you would not get ro shoot it. Whether you agree with the rules or not is not really the issue. The issue is respecting the rules or opening your own range and making your own rules.

                          BTW, I'm not against S12s or even using them to break clays. But, I respect the rules when I'm shooting at any facility. I have shot and allowed others to shoot S12s and AOWs at my home but, I would never expect guns like those to be welcome at every trap range.
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                          • #43
                            GettoPhilosopher
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1814

                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            Most ranges have rules regarding barrel lengths, PGs, etc. So, chances are you would not get ro shoot it. Whether you agree with the rules or not is not really the issue. The issue is respecting the rules or opening your own range and making your own rules.

                            BTW, I'm not against S12s or even using them to break clays. But, I respect the rules when I'm shooting at any facility. I have shot and allowed others to shoot S12s and AOWs at my home but, I would never expect guns like those to be welcome at every trap range.
                            Yes dad, I'm aware that you have to follow range rules.

                            Btw, I've already asked for the LA clinics and was told my Saiga was fine.

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