Saiga 12 for trap

[WDE91]

So if anything I have got the better buy here
Classy=check
multitool=check
HALF as much=check

you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against people who like different things than you and some of whom own more expensive things

Sent from my Iphone while driving my BMW
yours truely
Joseph Kearns

[IntoForever]

So, you were just throwing clays at a public shooting area and not on a trap range? There's a big difference between that and an actual trap range. I've hit almost every clay I've ever shot at with a 7 1/2" barrelled KEG-12 but, the thrower was next to me. If it had been 16 yards in front of me, I would have missed more than a few.

I do not know of a trap range that allows you to load more than one round per clay being thrown. In other words, no more than 2 rounds in the gun IF you are shooting doubles. This is a safety rule that should ALWAYS be followed.

Why isn't the S12 a good choice for trap? It would be like entering a crotch rocket in an freestyle motorcross competition. It's just the wrong tool for the job.

As long as your target moved, you hit it!

Angeles allowed me to have fully loaded magazines in my S-12 and the range officers were watching me.

Just like the KEG? I don't see any problem when practicing regarding "right tool" however I wouldn't try to take fowl with #8 in a S-12 unless I had a choke on it. Some of us are out there for fun, just like when I shoot at the steel, no way to really tell how accurate I am, I just like hearing the ping!

[bruss01]

So if anything I have got the better buy here
Classy=check
multitool=check
HALF as much=check

you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against people who like different things than you and some of whom own more expensive things

Sent from my Iphone while driving my BMW
yours truely
Joseph Kearns

I have a bit of a chip against rich bastards who look down their nose at others who have a different "take" on things... which I experienced PLENTY of out shooting skeet with my 590.

Nothing wrong if you want a certain tool, want to play the game a certain way... but the grunts of disgust and disparaging looks... yeah, that's a "sportsman"... what a sport.

[Paradiddle]

I have a bit of a chip against rich bastards who look down their nose at others who have a different "take" on things... which I experienced PLENTY of out shooting skeet with my 590.

Nothing wrong if you want a certain tool, want to play the game a certain way... but the grunts of disgust and disparaging looks... yeah, that's a "sportsman"... what a sport.

I think you are having trouble comprehending the words other people are using in this thread.

Your responses seem based on a misunderstanding.

[Hallz]

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What do you guys think of the 9 shot Mossberg 930 JM Pro as a multi tool?

http://www.mossberg.com/press/pdf/79.pdf

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[CSACANNONEER]

As long as your target moved, you hit it!

Angeles allowed me to have fully loaded magazines in my S-12 and the range officers were watching me.

Angeles doesn't have a trap range. They just have throwers next to the shooters. Regulation trap has rules that don't always apply at public blasting ranges.

[Paradiddle]

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What do you guys think of the 9 shot Mossberg 930 JM Pro as a multi tool?


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Funny - that is identical to the mod's I put on my 930. Took a bird 930, had Dave at DMW cut the barrel down, thread for chokes, 8 round tube, larger bolt handle, welded feed ramp - wala - a poor mans Benny Hill Benelli.

Mine runs great - I think that would be a great shotgun for most things.

[KWalkerM]

I shoot at regulation trap with .410. Shooting clays at the 16 yd line is tough but im averaging 15-18 clays out of 25 with it whereas im hitting 23/25 with my 12 gauge autoloader with an ejector akin to a booster rocket. Thank god for shell catchers. Anyway i digress. Im not a fan of the snooty shooters either and thats why i try to shoot my .410 in their squad. Its fun as long as you dont be rude or interrupt their routine.

[BigJ]

I listened to the naysayers way back when, and bought myself a beautiful Citori O/U right out of the gate. I shot sporting clays and trap with it for a couple years, and got to the point where 23/25 was a guarantee.

I basically got to the point where I had to decide if investing in a stock that fit me exactly right was worth it ($1000+ minimum). And then, I get to spend thousands of rounds finding that 24th consistently, and THEN I get to spend 10s of thousands more finding that 99/100. As a hobbyist non-sponsored non-reloading full time+ job working man for-fun shooter, I decided it wasn't worth it. I can have just as much fun shooting 23s, and the occasional good day's 24 or 25 as I might have 10 years from now shooting 98 or 99/100.

So I locked the Citori up in the safe and started taking out the 18" Benelli Nova to get some practice with it. Guess what? Yup... after an initial adjustment period my numbers are right back where they were with the Citori. The Citori has recently found a new home.

I definitely don't regret buying one of 'the best' production "sporting clay" shotguns right off the bat, but on this side of things I am convinced that with a little practice, anyone can have fun with pretty much any shotgun they take out. Yeah, you're gonna see more than a few noses up in the air when you show up with your blacked out tacticool 18" pump. But ya know, those looks have a way of disappearing when the dust starts flying

[Hallz]

Anyway i digress. Im not a fan of the snooty shooters either and thats why i try to shoot my .410 in their squad. Its fun as long as you dont be rude or interrupt their routine.

That is part of the reason I bought it, you have the people that buy a gun off the prestige or drool factor of their friends but can not shoot worth crap.

I love the WTF or wispers alternate arms cause. The irritation factor from the guys that have spent 2-3x (or more) on a Mall Ninja AR, TOL Benelli, High End or Custom 1911 and get out shot by something they have never seen or touched for them selves = Priceless!

Case in point, the S12's and HiPoint carbines. Way to many people have only read about them on the internet or talked to someone that read something on the net.

Putting your finger on the trigger a few times and lead down range yourself is the only way to truly know what works for you and what does'nt

[Lifeon2whls]

Why isn't the S12 a good choice for trap? It would be like entering a crotch rocket in an freestyle motorcross competition. It's just the wrong tool for the job.

Not quite a Freestyle competition but hey...

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307965

That said, I LOVE going to the range with something totally out of its element and showing up people who are regulars with all of their fancy equipment. Give me a S12 all day to shoot against someone with a really nice over/under

[BigJ]

LOL. I hear ya, and agree to some extent, but don't swing too far the other way. The truth is you with your bowie knife will NEVER out cut a surgeon with a scalpel in his or her hand .

Just keep it low key, get your hits in and let the dust fall where it may

[Mana4real]

I shoot at regulation trap with .410. Shooting clays at the 16 yd line is tough but im averaging 15-18 clays out of 25 with it whereas im hitting 23/25 with my 12 gauge autoloader with an ejector akin to a booster rocket. Thank god for shell catchers. Anyway i digress. Im not a fan of the snooty shooters either and thats why i try to shoot my .410 in their squad. Its fun as long as you dont be rude or interrupt their routine.

I had a bunch of guys giving me a hard time when I was shooting my .410 at trap a few months ago. I think that motivated me to do better then them all which I did. I hit 21 that round LOL (that was my best round ever with the .410). I've only shot the .410 around ten times at trap. To expensive to do all the time. I only reload 12 gauge. I can normally hit 22-25 at trap with my full choke 12 gauge. Skeet, Looks like I'm starting to average in the 21-22 area. Just need more practice. But it's funny when you have guys that get the wrong impression about someone. I just go out to have a good time. Skeet I'm happy with anything over 20 since I just started. Trap, I like to see 23 or better.

[Hallz]

Yeah, you're gonna see more than a few noses up in the air when you show up with your blacked out tacticool 18" pump. But ya know, those looks have a way of disappearing when the dust starts flying

I am with you there, Thanks for the input!

[IntoForever]

Angeles doesn't have a trap range. They just have throwers next to the shooters. Regulation trap has rules that don't always apply at public blasting ranges.

I just like to shoot the flying orange things.