New 870 Would Not Eject Two Shells

[aippi]

We are not against you MX as we all have compassion for Mossberg owners. They alway seem to pipe in on Remington threads, kind of like little kids that keep interupting the adults that are talking. So we lovingly scolled you and are careful not to to be to harsh

[Sigster]

^^^ that. Also, the cheap Winchester shells are about the worst you can buy. Federal or Remington have done much better for me. YMMV

I agree

[iamgbot]

I've never had any issues with my rem 870. I love it. But then again I never bought Winchester's either because I always read about eject issues. But some of the post are right. Just but federal from your local Wallyworld. You can get 100 shells for about $20. All my bucks are Remington. Good luck!

[TheExpertish]

We are not against you MX as we all have compassion for Mossberg owners. They alway seem to pipe in on Remington threads, kind of like little kids that keep interupting the adults that are talking. So we lovingly scolled you and are careful not to to be to harsh

[jrannison]

There was an article floating around that the newer 870's (Express) had rough chambers. And many folks have had to send them off to Remengtion's repair facility for correction.

I did check out the chamber area of my new 870 and overall it was very smooth, however some machined out areas had some sharp edges which could possibly catch on the ejected shell. I cut down those sharp edges, and did a lot of polishing of the chamber area and shell seating area.

When I go out to the range next week and finish off the remainder of the Winchesters I should know if that was a possible issue.

The Winchester shells fit quite well with some slop (before firing), but I don't know what happens after firing, and the expected expansion after the big BANG. If I get more hang ups I intend to compare those shells to the ones that ejected correctly.
And the summary of the research project will tell me what everyone has said: "Don't use Winchesters".

Happy Holidays everyone!

[Mightypoptart]

With the weekly "My New 870" issues, I think we should do a writeup and make it a sticky. I vote for aippi to do the write-up.

I second that.

[Jakegreen12]

Come on Aippi. You know the 870 is PLAGUED with extraction problems out of the box. It is a virtual nightmare for a normal non-gun person who doesn't frequent these types of boards.

In my opinion, the 870 is a fantastic gun. I have six! However, they have horrible quality control for the chambers of the barrels AND Remington puts a thick preservative that requires special cleaning beyond a normal cleaning to remove. The worst part they do not offer clear instructions how to get the preservative out.

The president of Remington should be fired immediately for the damage he has done to the "870" brand.

Aippi - The 870 is a fine shotgun. But, you know these things are true. You will help your credibility immensely by acknowledging the truth instead of posts minimizing these things.

[rojocorsa]

My 500 cycles everything I put in it.

As does my 1300.

Come on Aippi. You know the 870 is PLAGUED with extraction problems out of the box. It is a virtual nightmare for a normal non-gun person who doesn't frequent these types of boards.

In my opinion, the 870 is a fantastic gun. I have six! However, they have horrible quality control for the chambers of the barrels AND Remington puts a thick preservative that requires special cleaning beyond a normal cleaning to remove. The worst part they do not offer clear instructions how to get the preservative out.

The president of Remington should be fired immediately for the damage he has done to the "870" brand.

Aippi - The 870 is a fine shotgun. But, you know these things are true. You will help your credibility immensely by acknowledging the truth instead of posts minimizing these things.

This is why I only like old school Remington shotguns and rifles. Modern Freedom Group Remington is synonymous with cheap and plasticky in my mind.

[Jakegreen12]

I believe I am being objective about the whole thing. The Remington 870 is my hands down favorite shotgun. I love the simplicity of the action. I love the durability. I love the way it points for me.

I just have to tell the truth about the quality control problems. They suck.

[aippi]

Jake, some people have this issue and complain on some blog. These are mostly new gun owners. How many of these weapons are sold a year? How is it that certain ammo is the issue and not the weapon? How is it that I don't have this issue with the hundreds of 870' I shoot a year. Hundreds, not the one that some guy bought but hundreds. Not a single issue. Can a weapon get out of that plant with a rough chamber, I am sure it can. However, I have not received one. I have received several with the pedestal canted, the detend ball missing, scratches on the barrel and even one with no bead. People build these and check them and even worse they are Union workers who can mess up with out worry. So yes, some stuff gets out of there flawed but it is not the major issue you and others who only have experience with a few of these weapons want to make it.

I don't need you are anyone on this blog to give me credibility. My clients do that and hundreds of AI&P Tactical's being carried on duty by LEO's and in homes for protection do that. And I am known for stating the truth on this blog and others. Do not question my intergrity. I have over 40 of the 18.5" matte finish bead sight barrels that come off the 25077 model out in my shop right now and not a single one has a ruff chamber. Not one. I break down hundreds of this model a year as it is the model I build my custom builds on. I have sold hundreds of these and not a single one had any extraction issue, not one, not a single complaint or return. Not a single one. So your insistance on me minimizing an issue that does not exsist for me is rediculous.

[repubconserv]

There needs to be an aippi sticky at the top of this forum about 870s

As to everyone who is saying the "quality" of the ammunition is the problem.... it is a pump shotgun. Things should not be sticking no matter what you put in the chamber... maybe that is just my shotguns though

[Jakegreen12]

Aippi, you are your own worst enemy. Your business will suffer for two reasons.

1. You are abusive.
2. You are dishonest.

Your own website has an entire section on how to use dowels, electric drills, and steel wool to solve the problem of sticky chambers on the 870. If it were a non-problem, this information would not be there.

To others reading this subject, Google "870 extraction problem" and see what you find. It is a pump shotgun. It should work right out of the box like any other gun.

P.S. Aippi, I will never use your services and I will recommend that no one else does either.

[repubconserv]

Aippi, you are your own worst enemy. Your business will suffer for two reasons.

1. You are abusive.
2. You are dishonest.

Your own website has an entire section on how to use dowels, electric drills, and steel wool to solve the problem of sticky chambers on the 870. If it were a non-problem, this information would not be there.

To others reading this subject, Google "870 extraction problem" and see what you find. It is a pump shotgun. It should work right out of the box like any other gun.

P.S. Aippi, I will never use your services and I will recommend that no one else does either.

[Jakegreen12]

... says the guy that lives in a trailer park in Hemet. Hemet - LMAO!

Aippi's business will implode. He has already alienated many people on this board by his arrogant rude manner. Now, he has proven himself to nothing other that an (ineffective) Remington shill. His own website is proof. You don't go to the trouble to post an entire section to a problem that doesn't exist.

[aippi]

Jake you posted that the Remington 870 is plagued with extraction problems right out of the box. This is a general statement about all 870 and is incorrect. The issues have been with the 18.5 Express barrels. And there are thousands sold each year and a few have an issue and guys like you come to these blogs and rant about it being a major issue??????

I sell about 800 Remington barrels a year and have had no issues other then the ones I mentioned. You are saying I am being not telling the truth and if you knew anything about me you would know I always tell people the truth wether they can handle it or not.

As for my business imploding, well I will continue to make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, of course less then the few dollars your mom gives you to spend, and guys who want the truth about these weapon will continue to call and ask me.