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  • Mesa Tactical
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2004
    • 1746

    Why convert Saiga 12s?

    Why do so many Saiga 12s get converted to AK configuration? If you want a pistol grip, wouldn't something like this work as well?

    Lucy at www.mesatactical.com
  • #2
    QQQ
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2243

    I thought about doing that.

    However, you still need to make it 922r compliant.
    Also, having the pistol grip so far back makes the gun very difficult to handle for people who don't have incredibly long arms.

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    • #3
      frigginchi
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 1160

      If that had the regular poly ak stock that would be sick

      Originally posted by Mesa Tactical
      Why do so many Saiga 12s get converted to AK configuration? If you want a pistol grip, wouldn't something like this work as well?

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      • #4
        Mesa Tactical
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2004
        • 1746

        Originally posted by QQQ
        Also, having the pistol grip so far back makes the gun very difficult to handle for people who don't have incredibly long arms.
        Gotcha on the long arms part. I have long arms. But Lucy here at the office doesn't have long arms at all and she thought it was very comfortable.
        Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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        • #5
          drunktank
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 5461

          The balance is off and the trigger isn't as good. More parts as well that aren't f original design.

          WTB used AK MFER.

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          • #6
            drunktank
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2008
            • 5461

            Just saying. Nice gun in the pic by the way.

            WTB used AK MFER.

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            • #7
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              • Aug 2006
              • 1580

              Looks like a great, less complicated alternative to a conversion
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              • #8
                Yugo
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 8359

                can some one post a converted and not converted I am interested in getting one.
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                • #9
                  w55
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2438

                  IBAKP....I have one on a Siaga, my kid has no problem. Its not quite as authentic and some look down at the set up..

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                  • #10
                    1911su16b870
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 7654

                    It is a less involved conversion. With CA shotgun AW laws you have a maglock with any configuration, so you may as well have the PG.

                    I used the ACE rear trunnion block that leaves the trigger group where it is at for the stock S12. Then I added the saw grip and ACE wire stock. If I moved the trigger group forward it would shorten the shotgun about an inch.
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                    • #11
                      spits55
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 366

                      Originally posted by Yugo
                      can some one post a converted and not converted I am interested in getting one.
                      WTT- ......GLOCK 20......
                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=643358
                      WTB-Mosin Nagant/G22 & P22 Laser/GG&G Bipod/PSL Mags.
                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=646261

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                      • #12
                        Yugo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 8359

                        Just for us that are slower than others the bottom one is the converted and the top is original?
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                        Originally posted by WAMO556
                        Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                        Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                        Umm yeah!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          spits55
                          Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 366

                          Originally posted by Yugo
                          Just for us that are slower than others the bottom one is the converted and the top is original?
                          Correct...
                          WTT- ......GLOCK 20......
                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=643358
                          WTB-Mosin Nagant/G22 & P22 Laser/GG&G Bipod/PSL Mags.
                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=646261

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                          • #14
                            Hallz
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 247

                            Originally posted by Mesa Tactical
                            Why do so many Saiga 12s get converted to AK configuration? If you want a pistol grip, wouldn't something like this work as well?


                            That is almost exactly what I was looking to do. Do you know what set up it is?

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                            • #15
                              Ryan in SD
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1966

                              Overall length, ergos, trigger pull, looks, etc etc.

                              more like a restoration of a bastardization.

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