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  • #16
    chesterthehero
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 2070

    as always.. i vote winchester 1300 if you can find one
    Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!

    who wants a fishtank?

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    • #17
      BoJackUSMC
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2010
      • 7091

      Yes, Benelli M4 is legal here in CA and very reliable shotgun. In fact, I believe Marine Corps still use M4. However, the price might be little $$$ when comparing to pump action REM 870 or pump action Mossberg. If you got the $$$ for it than get it. I got REM 870 because I did not wanted to spend that much money on HD shotgun because I knew REM 870 will do the job.

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      • #18
        JaeOne3345
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 949

        FN SLP Mk1...picking mine up in 9 days....oh the wait...why...lol.

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        • #19
          ghostrider4evr
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 651

          Originally posted by FLAWLS1
          Is a Benelli M4 legal here in CA?
          It is legal, but also expensive. If you have the money then by all means go for it. If you are looking for some bang for your buck, look into a Remington 870, Mossberg 590, or a Winchester 1300.

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          • #20
            TheSteelCollector
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 43

            my 870 hd was around 275 when i bought it new, i see em go for around 300 now. Spend the extra $ you'd save on a good class or few handguns as backup.

            The first gun i ever bought when i turned 18 was a benelli nova tac with g-rings, thing i love most is the 3.5" chamber(although hard to find ammo sometimes, mostly 3" where i live) and the magazine disconnect for quick changeovers but being mostly polymer and buying 1st gen. it suffers from fore end rattles which could give away your position and in home defense that could prove deadly. I might contact benelli see if they have a fix then it will probably return as a my primary hd shotty.

            Would love an M4 just cant justify the price, my piston ar i built was cheaper than the lowest price that GB had to offer, if your dead set on semi-auto i would get a saiga or rem 1100 tac.

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            • #21
              jshoebot
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1857

              I'd go with a pump shotgun for home defense. I personally use a Remington 870, and couldn't be happier. Reason I'd go for a pump is because it'll work with any ammo you might have. A lot of the semi-auto guns (Mossberg 930, Remington 1100/1187) won't cycle properly with some low recoil/low noise loads.
              Any opinions expressed in my posts are not necessarily the opinions of any organizations in which I am a member.

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              • #22
                hcbr
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 4733

                ditto with all these gentlemen are suggesting, but the best bet FOR YOU is to just go to the range and try some. See if you want a pump or auto loader, and go from there. I know many peeps with different configurations, so it's ultimately up to you on what you can rely on. The ususal suspects are the Rem 870, Mossy 500/590 for pump, and what you suggested , the 930 SPX or the remington 1100 series are all good solutions. Try it out, hell if you have the dough, the Benelli M4 is awesome!
                Be the change that you wish to see in the world.Mahatma Gandhi

                "A bullet sounds the same in every language..."
                Stewie Griffin (Family Guy Episode: Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story 2005)

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                • #23
                  wu_dot_com
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1362

                  what kind of a place you live in that requires an assult rifle, semi-auto shotgun, and a few HGs for HD? how about saving that money and move to a better place?

                  for one i can tell you that unless you seriously fuk w/ some wrong people, you will never "NEED" any of those guns for home protection. but enough of my BS.

                  for strictly HD purpose, you don't want to use any rifles. for one, they are for long range, which is not suitable for close quarter combat situation when you are defending your house. for two that the bullets will penetrate through walls and you will hit innocent bystanders. if you actually shoot someone at long range with your rifle (i.e. more than 7 yds) it will most likely go down as murder rather than self defense. there will be no good ending in court.

                  shotgun is preferable for HD if you really feel the need for that extra fire power. standard none modify pump action w/ a box of factor 00 buck will be sufficient enough for HD case. one thing to keep in mind is that you do not want to modify your gun or use any reloads. otherwise you may face a tougher time winning the civil case.

                  as for HD handgun, pick a .38 revolver w/ a box of .38+P cartridge. do not do any modification to it because it can be view as negligent discharge in both criminal and civil trial. as with most defense discussion, shot placements is actually more important than bullet caliber. so learn how to shoot your HD HG accurately up to 10 yds.

                  before you even attempt to actually use it in a HD situation, please read up on the laws to make sure you understand shooting people under what condition is lawful.

                  my personal choice will be the old (new to me) Win 1897. or itahaca 37 or win model 12. those old trench gun are what made the enemy of US piss their pants from WW1 up to the Vietnam war. plus the slam fire capability would really help if you need the higher rate of fire.
                  Last edited by wu_dot_com; 01-18-2011, 1:01 PM.

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                  • #24
                    someR1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2932

                    Remington 870 pump
                    Mossberg 500 pump
                    Saiga 12 gauge semi-auto
                    "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
                    - George Mason

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                    • #25
                      Ricky-Ray
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3161

                      Can't go wrong with a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500.

                      I love my 870. Like others have said, don't just buy it shoot it a few times then put it away. Make sure your alway's shooting it so it becomes second nature and also take some good defensive shotgun classes.
                      Ray

                      "If you lead your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself. The dreams will come to you." - Randy Paush, Carnegie Mellon University

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                      • #26
                        aippi
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2302

                        Unless you seriously F' with some wrong people you will never need any of those guns for Home Protection??????

                        Wu dot, you have just earned the "Stupidest statement posted on a gun Blog" award. If it was a joke and I missed the punch line I will retract the Award and apologize.

                        OP. Check out the Remington HD model 25077. Comes with 18.5" bead sight barrel in Cyl Bore, Remington LE 2 shot extension, Speedfeed LE forend and Remington Synthetic stock. This is the same weapon most customizers build on including Wilson Combat, me and some others. You can find them for around $330 to $350 and yes, this is the same 870 Big Five calls the 870 Security Model. This weapon is the best value in a home defense shotgun.
                        JD McGuire, Owner
                        AI&P Tactical
                        Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
                        Mossberg LE Armorer
                        www.aiptactical.com
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                        If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.

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                        • #27
                          willm952
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 362

                          Originally posted by hk91666
                          Armalite Rifle ???
                          Yup. The other thing was never an issue.

                          I'd suggest for $500 or less Mossberg 590A1 non-pistol grip (safety is on top versus Remmy behind trigger) or Benelli Supernova (has shell stop, safety is forward of trigger and look at that trigger guard!)

                          If you're looking at $1000+ (I know what for a shotgun?!), benelli m2 with Comfortech stock; non-pistol grip. Cheaper than benelli M4 and holds 5 rounds vs. 4 for the M4. Nice proven blowback action been around for years. Yes it shoots birdshot. Check out trick shooting benelli on you tube. Many unsupported shots especially with Kristof.

                          Tried out the benelli m2 at a range with low recoil Ranger 00 buckshot. Very soft for a blowback action. Could be softer with their new Comfortech stock.

                          Definitely take several classes with the shotgun. Good trainers here on Calguns too.

                          Oh, Welcome!

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                          • #28
                            wu_dot_com
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 1362

                            Originally posted by aippi
                            Unless you seriously F' with some wrong people you will never need any of those guns for Home Protection??????

                            Wu dot, you have just earned the "Stupidest statement posted on a gun Blog" award. If it was a joke and I missed the punch line I will retract the Award and apologize.
                            the dude lives in Bay area SF. in case you have never been there, the general area is not that bad. matter of fact, compare to other areas in CA its pretty good and expensive. there is a few ghetto spots but nothing is as bad as some of the worst area like south central or compton. i lived in some pretty ghetto area in LA before, but there have not been a situation where a baseball bat couldn't handle the problem. also, burglary were more common in those bad areas. it would be worst if he owns all those guns and some gets stolen.

                            you didn't miss the punch line, i think you just cant read very well. stop taking the statement out of it's context. did you read my statement above the line you quoted?

                            the dude want a few HGs, an assault rifle, and a semi-auto for HD. unless he lives in a heavy drug traffic area in Mexico or Columbia, or in a war zone in Afghanistan, he will never NEED all that for HD. in case you never read the statistics, much of the home invasion shooting occurs due to gang violence rather then some random break in.

                            last, you being an expert gun owner, it should be your job to inform new gun owners the correct legal ramification about self protection. not just tell them what is the coolest toy that is currently available on the market. you seem to be a very stand up kind of guy, so no offense taken.
                            Last edited by wu_dot_com; 01-18-2011, 4:44 PM.

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                            • #29
                              FLAWLS1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 930

                              Originally posted by wu_dot_com
                              the dude lives in Bay area SF. in case you have never been there, the general area is not that bad. matter of fact, compare to other areas in CA its pretty good and expensive. there is a few ghetto spots but nothing is as bad as some of the worst area like south central or compton. i lived in some pretty ghetto area in LA before, but there have not been a situation where a baseball bat couldn't handle the problem.
                              LOL! I would LOVE to see you come out to the bad parts of the Bay Area, CA and see if you with a bat can handle the problem. HAHA... That's pretty hilarious. People in the ghetto areas around here have AK's, AR15's etc. I also don't live in San Francisco and you say that the bad areas around the Bay Area, CA aren't as bad as South Central or Compton. LMAO! Tell me how you know this. I bet you've never been to Central Richmond, North Richmond, East Oakland, or Hunters Point in SF. Another thing... those places are completely different worlds when the sun goes down.

                              Now as for where I live... It used to be a really good area and for the most part it still is. However, things happen and on December 4th a 9 year old girl was shot in the neck and their house was right down the street. There's also a projects about 5 minutes away & 3 of our cars have been stolen over several years in between, but still.

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                              • #30
                                FLAWLS1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 930

                                Originally posted by wu_dot_com
                                what kind of a place you live in that requires an assult rifle, semi-auto shotgun, and a few HGs for HD? how about saving that money and move to a better place?

                                for one i can tell you that unless you seriously fuk w/ some wrong people, you will never "NEED" any of those guns for home protection. but enough of my BS.
                                .
                                How about you give me $ to move to a better place I might not ever "need" any of those guns for home protection, but the same could be said about all the other people who own 10+ guns right? You seem to be offended that I want those guns as if you were buying them for me.

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