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  • whtl
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1042

    Shot gun for home.

    Mossberg,Remington, Savage or Winchester, Pump or semi auto... Whats the best for home protection. Thanks for your help.
    Last edited by whtl; 12-14-2010, 10:31 AM. Reason: Being more specific
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    hcbr
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 4733

    It all depends on what you want to do with it mostly. Trap/skeet? Hunting? HD? also it's all pure preference, there are plenty of flame wars and arguements what's good and not between semi or pump, but either way you go , you'll be gtg! ususally semi is good for hunting and HD, and pump is good all around. Pump also has good reliability since you can gaurantee your cycling. All the ones you mentioned are great brands, it's down to you just going to the range and just shooting each one yourself. Mossberg 500, Remington 870, winchester 1200 and benelli nove/super nova are good pumps, Mossberg 930, remington 1100 series (11-87), windchester sx3 and benelli m4 are great semi auto's! again, try them out, and maybe hitup one of bjl333's skeet clinics as they have some shotguns you can shoot and give you advice on!
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    • #3
      jackandblood
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1125

      As I understand it, semi is geared more towards sporting. Then again, according to counter strike, it's imperative to put 3 quick into center of mass. Also from what i hear you dont want a pump shotgun for home defense as the pumping sound is "cool" and will actually attract more thugs. Like starting a party up in here.
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      • #4
        aippi
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 2302

        Jack, don't know where you heard that you don't want a pump because the pumping sound attracts more thugs, but for Gods sake man don't listen to that idiot or ask him any gun questions, OK. That is by far the most ridiculous comment that I have read on any gun forum and I suspect you are kidding but you should end the post with the fact that it was a joke.

        For the OP. What? Your question is completely to general. You can't ask a question like that and expect answers, except for the "pumping sound" type. You have to state what it is you want to know. There is no best as there are hundreds of models of shotguns and they are designed for different things and people have different preferences. They range in price from $120 to Several Thousands dollars. Tell us what you want a shotgun for, are you hunting, sport shooting, home defense? Ask a more specific question and the guys on here will jump in with some sound advice.
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        • #5
          RT13
          Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 1407

          I thought the sound of a pump shotgun racking deters thugs not invite them.

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            Canucky
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            • Dec 2007
            • 4265

            counter strike the video game

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            • #7
              1nsanity
              • Mar 2008
              • 606

              I'm more drawn to a SxS and lever action shotguns right now... Probably influenced by my earlier geeking years as a gamer playing fps such as Doom/ Quake along with too much T2 back in the day.

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              • #8
                dascoyne
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 729

                Originally posted by jackandblood
                As I understand it, semi is geared more towards sporting. Then again, according to counter strike, it's imperative to put 3 quick into center of mass. Also from what i hear you dont want a pump shotgun for home defense as the pumping sound is "cool" and will actually attract more thugs. Like starting a party up in here.
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                • #9
                  AM9000
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 636

                  I thought it was funny.

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                  • #10
                    DaveFJ80
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2066

                    I always when I see/hear people say that racking a pump shotgun will give away your location.

                    In most instances where you will rack a shotgun to notify an intruder, it will be inside of your own house. Most likely that intruder doesn't know the layout of your house like you do. They may get a sense of what direction the shotgun sound is coming from (depending on how your house is layed out... in mine, I can make it echo pretty well so you can't isolate where the sound came from), but it's highly doubtful that they'll know your precise location. If anything, the sound of a shotgun racking will flip a switch in their head and they'll realize that the home owner most likely has a loaded shotgun and is willing to use it. Unless that intruder wants to stay and really start a fight, they'll probably want to get out of there quickly before they find themselves staring down the barrel of a loaded shotgun.

                    It's about common sense, and how you use the tool (gun) at hand.



                    Back on topic for the OP, a pump is more than enough for the average person. Unless you plan to go hunting, or out in the field and really need a semi auto to unload quickly into bad guys (most of us won't be doing this), or if there's a SHTF situation and zombies are attacking you from all over.... or if you just want a fun shotgun to play with, then a semi is a great option to have. They can be a little more finikey compared to a pump when it comes to ammo and cleaniness (almost like comparing the reliabilty of a Glock and 1911.... well, my Glock and 1911 at least), where as a pump will work for you just about every time you need it. That's just my opinion on it.

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                    • #11
                      ZX-10R
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 4122

                      Check your ranges...The range I go to will only allow one round in the chambers so semi is a waste.

                      I have a Remington 870 and it works flawlessly. One of the best gun purchases I have ever made.
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                      • #12
                        Chris M
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1771

                        It all comes down to personal preference and application.

                        If you're going to be using it for waterfowl hunting in extreme cold, then I would recommend staying away from semi-auto, since many have a tendency to fail to operate correctly (fail to eject, fail to chamber the next round) when frozen.

                        Pumps tend to be more reliable, but follow-up shots are, of course, slower than auto-loaders.

                        My personal preference is over/under for both hunting and shooting. Sure, I'm limiting myself to only two rounds, but I like having the ability to select a different choke with a simple flick of the thumb.

                        O/U probably isn't your best option for self-defense, but it'll certainly get the job done if used properly.

                        Another thing to consider is felt recoil. Semi-Autos (for the most part) have less felt recoil than pumps and break-action shotguns. This tends to make them better for women, children, or others that are recoil-sensitive.

                        Originally posted by DaveFJ80
                        ...semi auto...They can be a little more finikey compared to a pump when it comes to ammo and cleaniness ... where as a pump will work for you just about every time you need it. That's just my opinion on it.
                        Another great point. Many of the semi-autos with 3.5" chambers will not cycle 2.75" target rounds. Since pumps rely on YOU to cycle the rounds, they don't care what you put through them.
                        Last edited by Chris M; 12-14-2010, 10:00 AM.

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                        • #13
                          whtl
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1042

                          I have a Winchester 12ga Pump. It holds four and one in the chamber. It would be for home protection. I was thinking of a semi auto that holds six to eight shells. Thanks for your help.




                          QUOTE=aippi;5445017]Jack, don't know where you heard that you don't want a pump because the pumping sound attracts more thugs, but for Gods sake man don't listen to that idiot or ask him any gun questions, OK. That is by far the most ridiculous comment that I have read on any gun forum and I suspect you are kidding but you should end the post with the fact that it was a joke.

                          For the OP. What? Your question is completely to general. You can't ask a question like that and expect answers, except for the "pumping sound" type. You have to state what it is you want to know. There is no best as there are hundreds of models of shotguns and they are designed for different things and people have different preferences. They range in price from $120 to Several Thousands dollars. Tell us what you want a shotgun for, are you hunting, sport shooting, home defense? Ask a more specific question and the guys on here will jump in with some sound advice.[/QUOTE]
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                          • #14
                            masterbush
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 215

                            Originally posted by ZX-10R
                            Check your ranges...The range I go to will only allow one round in the chambers so semi is a waste.
                            Chambers or tube, most semis I've seen only have one chamber. What an odd rule.

                            I have an 870 as well and am waiting on my M4 to show up. My 870, this is my second one works awesome, have had no failures or problems. It chews any ammo you throw in it and currently are on sale at B5 for 329 after the mail in rebate. The Nova is also on sale for 349 after mail in rebate.

                            Lots of choices none really to bad, all on what you want it for and how much you are willing to spend. Hell you can even go with the Stoeger DD, I think its bad ace looking.



                            Jackandblood on shotguns:As I understand it, semi is geared more towards sporting. Then again, according to counter strike, it's imperative to put 3 quick into center of mass. Also from what i hear you dont want a pump shotgun for home defense as the pumping sound is "cool" and will actually attract more thugs. Like starting a party up in here.

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                            • #15
                              EdCo
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 864

                              We really need a sticky.

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