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  • #16
    BoonieGhost
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 251

    Originally posted by markslyon
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    • #17
      1lostinspace
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2006
      • 7848

      I have 2 Saigas and they are the most reliable rifles I have ever owned!!!
      I have the $2000 AR's 3 of them! and the $1000 Ak and my go to is a Saiga .223
      There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

      PUREMMA
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      • #18
        drummerdude1188
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 792

        Originally posted by 1lostinspace
        I have 2 Saigas and they are the most reliable rifles I have ever owned!!!
        I have the $2000 AR's 3 of them! and the $1000 Ak and my go to is a Saiga .223
        were talking about saiga 12's...


        The whole aftermarket gas plug with a million settings is a joke, polishing all the guts of the gun is also unnessesary and IMO is just a ploy for smiths to make money. I had a 2001 saiga 12 with no work on it. Left it on setting 1 and it ran any kind of loads with no problems. Unless you have one of the "vodka specials" no work should need to be done. AGP's or factory mags are the only ones really gtg.

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        • #19
          markslyon
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 318

          "Vodka special"................................I laughed for several minutes straight.

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          • #20
            BoonieGhost
            Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 251

            Originally posted by k-101
            were talking about saiga 12's...


            The whole aftermarket gas plug with a million settings is a joke, polishing all the guts of the gun is also unnessesary and IMO is just a ploy for smiths to make money. I had a 2001 saiga 12 with no work on it. Left it on setting 1 and it ran any kind of loads with no problems. Unless you have one of the "vodka specials" no work should need to be done. AGP's or factory mags are the only ones really gtg.
            they started have a lot of QC issues between 2007-2009, so anything in that time period will more than likely need to be well tuned. Mine is an 08 model and it was one of the unlucky ones, but after being tuned, it runs like a champ!

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            • #21
              1lostinspace
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2006
              • 7848

              Originally posted by k-101
              were talking about saiga 12's...


              The whole aftermarket gas plug with a million settings is a joke, polishing all the guts of the gun is also unnessesary and IMO is just a ploy for smiths to make money. I had a 2001 saiga 12 with no work on it. Left it on setting 1 and it ran any kind of loads with no problems. Unless you have one of the "vodka specials" no work should need to be done. AGP's or factory mags are the only ones really gtg.


              oh I see...either way I never got Vodka with my rifle!!!
              There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

              PUREMMA
              MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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              • #22
                Quinc
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 3011

                I had to send mine to get the gas ports drilled out.(vodka special) came with 1 and half.... after that it runs through everything perfect. Have any of you noticed an difference with the aftermarket gas plug, other then looking "cool" I dont see what the fuss is about? Anyway off to the Reno gun show tomorrow to try and get some tacticool accesories for her!
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                • #23
                  CRUCIFIED
                  Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 136

                  If your S12 is cycling EVERYTHING on setting 1 it is definitely overgassed. If its shooting light loads as well as high brass, buckshot and slugs on the same setting as the light birdshot it is beating the hell out of the rear trunnion. It simply does not need that much gas to cycle strong loads.
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                  • #24
                    santamonica9
                    In Memoriam
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1475

                    Originally posted by CRUCIFIED
                    If your S12 is cycling EVERYTHING on setting 1 it is definitely overgassed. If its shooting light loads as well as high brass, buckshot and slugs on the same setting as the light birdshot it is beating the hell out of the rear trunnion. It simply does not need that much gas to cycle strong loads.
                    so should I asssume setting 1 -> birdshot & 2 buck plus slugs?
                    I mainly shoot .22lr, 9mm,45 acp, 357 & 38, 12G, 7.62x39, .308, .223/556, 7.62x54r, 300 win mag, 8x57
                    God Bless USA

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                    • #25
                      BoonieGhost
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 251

                      Originally posted by santa9monica
                      so should I asssume setting 1 -> birdshot & 2 buck plus slugs?
                      NO.... 1 is HOT Loads/High Base Brass 2 is light loads/ Low base brass...

                      Also, to PROPERLY educate yourself on the nature of the Saiga beast go to http://forum.saiga-12.com/
                      Last edited by BoonieGhost; 11-07-2010, 12:38 PM.

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                      • #26
                        supermario
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4569

                        If you were shooting 00Buck and it was jamming, it was probably the gas holes (vodka special). When i first got mine, the holes were not drilled all the way through, so i sent it to cadiz gun works for warranty. Otherwise it should be shooting fine as long as your using decent mags. I have over a thousand rounds without cleaning and my Saiga 12 shoots everything. They are great shotguns and very reliable. They are well worth the $$ and I want another one and i already own 3
                        Heres my baby, i love this shotgun. Its light with the moe stock and oem handguard and its a fast shooter. I can pop off 9shots in 2 seconds.

                        Last edited by supermario; 11-07-2010, 9:52 PM.

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                        • #27
                          stix213
                          AKA: Joe Censored
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 18998

                          The Saiga 12 10 rounders from Surefire are terribad (follower flops back and forth, creating stove pipes), but very good mags in 7.62x39. I have a few other mags that do a pretty good job though. I had to drill out the gas ports to get proper function with light loads fyi.

                          On a side note, I threw my Eotech 553 onto my Saiga 12 when shooting clays with my brother over the weekend, and it was like I had Aimbot on

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                          • #28
                            drummerdude1188
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 792

                            Originally posted by CRUCIFIED
                            If your S12 is cycling EVERYTHING on setting 1 it is definitely overgassed. If its shooting light loads as well as high brass, buckshot and slugs on the same setting as the light birdshot it is beating the hell out of the rear trunnion. It simply does not need that much gas to cycle strong loads.

                            Its fine to leave it on setting 1.

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                            • #29
                              drummerdude1188
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 792

                              Originally posted by BoonieGhost
                              they started have a lot of QC issues between 2007-2009,
                              I think the time was more 07/08, the ones that came in right before the drought when izhmash retooled, and importation stopped. stock guns were going for like 7-800. Anyway, the "vodka specials" are the guns that came in in 07/08 with all sorts of ****ed up gas ports, like only having 2 ports drilled, or having the gas block cover some of the ports. Not all of the 07/08 guns were like that, but a large amount were. My 01 ran like a champ. It was so old it was actually an EAA import.
                              Last edited by drummerdude1188; 11-08-2010, 11:41 PM.

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                              • #30
                                drummerdude1188
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 792

                                Originally posted by stix213
                                I had to drill out the gas ports to get proper function with light loads fyi.
                                What year is the gun?

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