Trap ammo

[Markus]

I was over at the local walmart yesterday looking to pick up my usual value pack of 100 rounds and saw a couple different boxes of shotgun shells on their shelf. They had the normal value pack they had Winchester super x and some game loads. Game loads were the cheapest and I was wondering if they were any different than what i get in the value pack. Ended up getting the super x cuz it was only a dollar more. So just wondering ofnthe game loads work well And if they are worthwhile shooting trap.

[rromeo]

The game load usually has more velocity and less shot. For example 1 oz shot at 1290 fps while the target load has 1 1/8 oz shot at 1200 fps. For clays you want more pellets, not necessarily faster pellets.

[Markus]

Thanks anything about the winchester super x?

[faterikcartman]

I can't remember the details unfortunately, but I'm pretty sure there are a few reasons to not use game loads. Velocity as mentioned above, but I also think the shot itself is different, softer I believe, tends to deform and not pattern as well. If, of course, I'm remembering correctly.

[BMC]

The federal game loads (1oz/ 1290fps) contain a softer lead shot compared to the target grade which is said to have a harder shot. As a competitive shooter I've yet to see the difference in target breakage/percentage. I've shot all the cheap and high end target shells as well as hand loaded a many different reciepes lookiing for the "golden shell". I don't believe such a thing exists and consequently rely on the one shell that does work good. I've shot 468 straight in singles and 200 straight in doubles using those cheap 1oz game loads. I prefer the speed personally. I have even stopped using the 1-1/8 Nitro STS for handicap because my scores are better with the faster 1 oz load and they are damn near half the price of the STS's. If a person believes that the cheaper federal game load shell is causing them target losses, they need to worry about what going on between and behind the eyes before the considering the shell load they are using.

[ysr_racer]

As a competitive shooter I've yet to see the difference in target breakage/percentage. I've shot all the cheap and high end target shells as well as hand loaded a many different reciepes lookiing for the "golden shell".

I don't believe such a thing exists and consequently rely on the one shell that does work good...

Yep, what he said. Buy one brand and stick with it.

[TERRYGER]

As a competitive shooter I've yet to see the difference in target breakage/percentage.

many thousands of other "competitive shooters" disagree but if you are happy so am i!

[waffenschmied]

The Federal game loads are fine for clays, and I find little difference between the game loads and the the 100 pack ammo, except that the game loads are less expensive by 10 -15%. If you like to shoot a great deal, you may find the savings are well worth it.

The best way to tell if they will work for you is to invest in a couple of boxes and try them.

Good luck!

[BMC]

many thousands of other "competitive shooters" disagree but if you are happy so am i!

Of course they disagree, they are trapshooters...lol. I've yet to meet one that doesn't disagree about shells. In fact most of those thousands you bring up would rather complain or disagree about shells than improve their game..lol. See it every weekend, many of which are friends who find complaining about shells more competitive than the actual game itself.

Bottom line= shoot what works best for you. There is no golden perfect shell. The golden shell is the one the person shoots the best and works the best with their guns. That might be a cheap shell or a super high dollar shell. The price and marketing of a shell does not make it good. The results are what matter. I can tell you Terry that countless 100 straights with those shells should give them more credit. Actually I prefer people don't buy them because that allows me to go to my wallyworld and buy ten cases at a time and they have them in stock!

[BigDogatPlay]

Bottom line= shoot what works best for you. There is no golden perfect shell. The golden shell is the one the person shoots the best and works the best with their guns. That might be a cheap shell or a super high dollar shell.

^^^This^^^

I get very good results, considering that I am a casual shooter, using the (relatively) inexpensive, bargain shells. The Winchester 100 pack all purpose loads pattern very well in my O/U, just as well as higher priced ammo from other makers.

To me, the pattern is everything.

[bjl333]

The federal game loads (1oz/ 1290fps) contain a softer lead shot compared to the target grade which is said to have a harder shot. As a competitive shooter I've yet to see the difference in target breakage/percentage. I've shot all the cheap and high end target shells as well as hand loaded a many different reciepes lookiing for the "golden shell". I don't believe such a thing exists and consequently rely on the one shell that does work good. I've shot 468 straight in singles and 200 straight in doubles using those cheap 1oz game loads. I prefer the speed personally. I have even stopped using the 1-1/8 Nitro STS for handicap because my scores are better with the faster 1 oz load and they are damn near half the price of the STS's. If a person believes that the cheaper federal game load shell is causing them target losses, they need to worry about what going on between and behind the eyes before the considering the shell load they are using.

The Fed's are good to go ... I've been using them since they were $2.99, now the are almost 5 bucks. They are still the best way to go. I still use AA's for the big matches but thats just me !!