2nd. Amendment Rights and My Shotgun?

[Morgan777]

I had a great little Remington in the 80's and foolishly sold it as I thought I didn't need it. A couple of weeks ago I purchased a Mossberg 500 from a local pawn shop and was denied by the DOJ. Believing I had no record and being a good American I was astonished at this response. When I called the DOJ, I was informed I had a federal arrest warrent that flagged the sale. In disbelief I realized what had happened but not how??? In 1969 I was a "civil disobedience" draft resister and not wanting to be a part of burning women and children in the governments current war of the times, I refused to go! Thing got messed up somehow and I missed a trial date and got arrested and taken in. I managed to beat the thing in the end and received a presidential pardon signed by nixon. This was an appology by the US government and I was cleared of any offense. Now somehow mysteriously the felony has returned to my record but only at the DOJ! I had my background checked out and it is clear by my search. They are now telling me to be patient and that they are waiting for the dept of pardons to respond so I can pick up my new shotgun. Not holding my breath and would like to take some kind of action. I contacted the NRA but they are busy these days... Anyone got any suggestions?

[aippi]

You were unwilling to enter the military who is the guardian of our freedom and who ensures our rights are protected against others in this world who would deny them. Now you want your rights. A lot of people have given it all for you to have these rights so I hope yours are restored. As for burning women and children, I am offended by that comment as should be every vet. Presidential pardons are rather expensive so I assume you have the money to get an attorney, so get one and go after them till your rights are restored. You are an American and these are your birth rights even if you are unwilling to protect them.

[Turner68]

"burning women and children" ?

Everyone back during the Vietnam War had to make a choice and you made yours. I thank all veterans and especially Vietnam vets who did their job despite our being involved in a unpopular war.

Thank you...

[ke6guj]

sounds like you've done what you need to with having them confirm your pardon. I think you do need to give the system some time to operate, but if its months down the road with no solution, then perhaps contacting one of the firearms lawyers to see if they can help.

[RANDO]

I had a great little Remington in the 80's and foolishly sold it as I thought I didn't need it. A couple of weeks ago I purchased a Mossberg 500 from a local pawn shop and was denied by the DOJ. Believing I had no record and being a good American I was astonished at this response. When I called the DOJ, I was informed I had a federal arrest warrent that flagged the sale. In disbelief I realized what had happened but not how??? In 1969 I was a "civil disobedience" draft resister and not wanting to be a part of burning women and children in the governments current war of the times, I refused to go! Thing got messed up somehow and I missed a trial date and got arrested and taken in. I managed to beat the thing in the end and received a presidential pardon signed by nixon. This was an appology by the US government and I was cleared of any offense. Now somehow mysteriously the felony has returned to my record but only at the DOJ! I had my background checked out and it is clear by my search. They are now telling me to be patient and that they are waiting for the dept of pardons to respond so I can pick up my new shotgun. Not holding my breath and would like to take some kind of action. I contacted the NRA but they are busy these days... Anyone got any suggestions?

you should stand in front of our troops being you wont stand with or behind them. *******

[wilson_wwsc]

So why do u need a mossberg 500 now? Let me guess, to burn women and children?

[phamkl]

Men weren't the only ones who fought with the VC and NVA.

That war didn't go the way I would have had it go, but don't think for a second that what the communist regime did to my family was any better than what a few degenerate soldiers did. One big difference was most US soldiers were punished for war crimes (the media saw to this) while the *****es who started the whole thing were given government position.

Change your attitude about that war. America's involvement may have been misguided, but America's withdrawal then was despicable the way it turned away from communists' brutalities - and the way the media simply walked away from the aftermath was. Beyond words.

I don't blame you for wanting to dodge the draft - it was a distant war that had little to do with America other than the issue of Containment. However, if you believe that America was simply in Sai Gon to burn women and children, you are disgusting.

[an actual gun]

If what he is saying is true, I personally support his right to dissent and find absolutely abhorrent any legitimacy argued for limiting his rights because of it. Our rights are not contingent upon military service and one of the greatest things about this country is the fact that we have such truly inalienable rights. Dissent and subversion also have an important place in American history and I think anyone who will stand up to the federal government to defend their own conscientious principles is a hero.

This is coming from a guy whose dad served over there in the late 60's.

[cousinkix1953]

I had a great little Remington in the 80's and foolishly sold it as I thought I didn't need it. A couple of weeks ago I purchased a Mossberg 500 from a local pawn shop and was denied by the DOJ. Believing I had no record and being a good American I was astonished at this response. When I called the DOJ, I was informed I had a federal arrest warrent that flagged the sale. In disbelief I realized what had happened but not how??? In 1969 I was a "civil disobedience" draft resister and not wanting to be a part of burning women and children in the governments current war of the times, I refused to go! Thing got messed up somehow and I missed a trial date and got arrested and taken in. I managed to beat the thing in the end and received a presidential pardon signed by nixon. This was an appology by the US government and I was cleared of any offense. Now somehow mysteriously the felony has returned to my record but only at the DOJ! I had my background checked out and it is clear by my search. They are now telling me to be patient and that they are waiting for the dept of pardons to respond so I can pick up my new shotgun. Not holding my breath and would like to take some kind of action. I contacted the NRA but they are busy these days... Anyone got any suggestions?

You were pardoned twice. Jimmy Carter pardoned all of those draft dodgers en-masse a second time. Only an idiot hasn't heard this by now. You should not even be on those frigging computers any more. If you had joined the military, and then were court-martialed for disobeying an order, it's a different story. In that case, you wouldn't have been able to buy that Remington either.

The Gulf of Tonkin story was LBJ's big lie. North Vietnam did not attack the United States. I might feel differently had you chickensh---ed out of Afghanistan in 2001; because Osama bin Laden' terrorists attacked us on 9/11. It ranks right there with Pearl Harbor and there is no equivalent incident involving Ho Chi Minh...

[Rem222]

I also support his right to dissent, but as a Vietnam veteran I find his "burning women and children" statement a insult to all of us that served.

[Dirtbiker]

Isn't it nice to be able to openly disagree with your government. It's one of the many rights we have that was made possible by US troops.

While everywhere you can and will find evil human beings do not make sweeping statements like your first post.

It is unfair, disrespectful, disgusting, and untrue.

[aippi]

doesn't matter if the post is real or not as there are thousands with the same mind set out there. Even if he is a composite of like minded people, the members get a chance to post their responses and let those people know that even if they are unwilling to stand and defend the right we all enjoy, they still are entitled to them in this country. As for me, I stood and defended those rights, and where others take them for granted, I do not and I an very diligent in guarding and protecting those rights. If we snooze we loose. Most of the members of this forum live in a state that would love to take all 2nd amendment rights away and your members more then others around this country are more vigilant and protective of the few rights their state has not taken. I support this forum because I support the gun owners of your state and yes even the guy who posted this has a right to own a firearm once this issue (if real ) is cleared up. It is a birth right paid for by others. He will not appreciate it nor the price they paid for it.

[ke6guj]

what a way to treat a new poster. We are talking about something that happened 40 years ago.

Yes, he mentioned "burning women and children" but was that his mindset then or is it still his mindset?

[aermotor]

Jeeze people... some really strong comments against this new user looking for some advice. Good job. You guys still surprise me with how much you can alienate good people looking for help. They come here or found us for a reason and this is how you treat them? Get off your high horses.

When OUR government comes to YOUR doors asking for YOUR weapons, I assume you'll just turn them over because "they are our protectors" and "we can trust them" – I think not.

The guy has a pardon and should be treated as though it didn't happen. They don't just hand those things out.

Show a little more respect for the name and image of Calguns you so boldly tote on that horse of yours.


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Good luck Morgan777 getting that all worked out!

[Turner68]

I will show a little more respect for the people that earned it....