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I have a 11-87 with 26". I've only taken it out once. Never had a problem cycling light loads. Get one.I am offically a gun nut!!!!! -
I did have some cycling probs with light (#8 birdshot) practice rounds (for me). After a few hundred rounds, with cleaning and lubing, it now cycles fine.
I've got the 11-87P 18.5" gun, if that matters.(former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)Comment
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I may be bias as I am a Remington Factory Certified LE Armorer and certified on the 11-87 Police. Basiclly the 11-87 is nothing more then and 870 with a gas system, thus, 11 for the 1100 and 87 for the 870. A couple of other little differences but it is KISS simple compared to other semi-autos and based on two proven designs. It is more Murphy proof then the others for sure. Rugged and with a little care, a new gas seal every few years, it will last you a life time. You will love this weapon for hunting and shooting sports. Get one. And by the way, there are plenty of options for spare barrels so your 11-87 can serve several roles with just a change of the barrel........JD McGuire, Owner
AI&P Tactical
Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
Mossberg LE Armorer
www.aiptactical.com
www.tacticalgunslings.com
If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.Comment
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Not a chance you are going to convince me that the 11-87 is KISS compared to a Benelli. Nor as reliable, or rugged. I've owned 'em and shot 'em. Not in the same league as Benelli but cheaper to buy.I may be bias as I am a Remington Factory Certified LE Armorer and certified on the 11-87 Police. Basiclly the 11-87 is nothing more then and 870 with a gas system, thus, 11 for the 1100 and 87 for the 870. A couple of other little differences but it is KISS simple compared to other semi-autos and based on two proven designs. It is more Murphy proof then the others for sure. Rugged and with a little care, a new gas seal every few years, it will last you a life time. You will love this weapon for hunting and shooting sports. Get one. And by the way, there are plenty of options for spare barrels so your 11-87 can serve several roles with just a change of the barrel........I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.
When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.Comment
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Don't need to convince you. go buy what you want, however, do you work on them for a living like I do? Do you repair them, build them or even know how to. I gave a professional view of an excellent weapon design not an opinion. You can argue opinions all day like the best pick up truck is, Ford, Chevy, Dodge ect. I know the 11-87 is an excellent sporting shotgun. I do not recommend them for duty or HD nor do I recommend any semi-auto for those functions, but sporting is different. The man asked for an assetment of the weapon and he got lucky and got one from a Remington Factory Certified Armorer, and he also got an opinion from you. Now he can decide for himself as it was his question I answered and not an invitation to debate with you.JD McGuire, Owner
AI&P Tactical
Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
Mossberg LE Armorer
www.aiptactical.com
www.tacticalgunslings.com
If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.Comment
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I've been very happy with my 11-87P for home defense and various tactical shotgun courses. I'm a lefty though I prefer a 'righty' shotgun as i can easily look into the action. You don't say, but if you're a lefty, the 11-87's safety cannot be turned around. If that's an issue for you, either pick another system, or the lefty 11-87.
ETA: I'm just north in Manteca. If you ever want to swing out to the Manteca Sportsmen, you can try mine.Manteca Sportsmen General website.
MS 2012 General Schedule thread look here.
Women's Classes at the Manteca Sportsmen (2012 Schedule posted)
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I agree that the 11-87 is a great gun. My brother used his with great success as a trap/pheasant/duck/quail/sporting clays/turkey gun with great success for years. It handled trap loads to heay turkey loads very well.
However, on the logic side of this thread, one can have all the experience and expertise in the world on any one item and not be able to draw an informed comparison to others, due to a lack of experience on it peers. In other words, depth of experience on the 11-87 doesn't necessarily equate to breadth of experience when comparing it to the 1100, Beretta 391, Benelli, Browning Gold, Super X3, etc.Comment
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No I don't work on Remmy's, but I have because I owned them. I don't work on my Benelli because it runs. I've shot it in 3 gun for close to 10 years and haven't had to replace a part. I tried shooting a Remmy for a year and all I did was waste my entry fees.
There's a reason why the top 3 gun shooters in the world use Benellis they work.
My gun smith buddy that designed and makes parts for Remmy recommends Benellis. He's also master pistol smith not an armorer.
You like them great I can only go from my experience. I don't have any Orings to fail, I don't have to clean the gas system, I don't have a heavy gun, I don't have the sharp edges inside and the link breaking.
Shooting trap I'd say get a Remmy they make great trap guns.
LAPD gave the thumbs up to the Benelli M4 and the Remmy 870 not the semi auto Remingtons.
I've seen many a shooter go from Remington to Benelli. I've not seen anybody go from Benelli to Remington in and action sport.Last edited by randy; 06-28-2009, 11:45 PM.I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.
When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.Comment
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I recently bought a Rem 11-87 Police and it wouldn't cycle a single round of birdshot.. 7.5, 8 shot.. cheap Walmart 3dram stuff.
50 rounds, not one correct ejection.
Slugs and buckshot did cycle just fine, though.
I did some reading, and went out and bought the missing "Barrel Seal Activator". I put that in, and it shoots just fine now on the same loads. A $9 part fixed the gun.. seems like they should have put it in there in the first place!
Apparently, the other 11-87s come with the barrel seal activator, but the Police models get shorted. I have no idea why. I was so frustrated that I didn't buy the Moss 930SPX at about half the price, I just about left the 11-87 in the gun shop consignment rack.
aippi? Any thoughts on this magic ring?Comment
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The 11-87 P is only designed for heavy loads. I will not say this for liability reasons but I heard somewhere, don't know where, but if they said if you double the o-ring then you can shoot target loads but make sure you remove the second one before you shoot a heavy load or it will blow....again, just heard that somewhere and I don't recommend anyone do that. I will not trust my life to any semi auto shotgun. Not gas system not blow back, inertia or any other mess that is out there. It is great that some guys have a perfect weapon, but for the rest of you, simply go to any three gun shoot and take a piece of paper and make two collums, put pump at the top of one and Auto at the top of the other and sit there and watch the matches for a day. each time a shooter has a weapon issue put a check in the collum for the weapon he is using either, Pump or Auto and at the end of the day add up the check marks......as for Departments going to semi-auto shotguns... I was a Chief and I will tell you now and any LEO will attest to this that those decisions are often made by Admin pukes with less street experience then a teenage street walker. They buy into the Marketing and have no knowledge of how these weapons deploy. They don't solicit input from the end users and if they do it is just to give warm fuzees to the guys doing the job and that input means nothing, they are going to purchase what they want. Not all but many do this in all equipment purchasing. So the fact that some large department went to a certain weapon means nothing to me. For every Department or Officer that you hear went to a semi-auto in past few years, more came home and they came home to the Remington 870. Sorry guys but there are Firearms Instructors for DEA, Large and small departs that are using my weapons and none of these men, not a single one would tell an officer to go into the **** with any semi-auto shotgun. I Will take any pump over any Semi-auto, any pump, 870, 590, 37, any.. With all that said I have built an 11-87 police, the only thing used is the receiver, Every thing else is factory new, I installed a factory new trigger assembly so it would have the enlongated bolt release, It has a combat bolt handle, It has the Sure Fire dedicate 620 forend, 18.5 police barrel with Trijicon night sights, SF-IVS stock, Remington LE 2 round extension, Mesa 6 rd shell holder. Complete new gas system. I have not put it on my web site as I just have to much of an issue with these. However, I am going to list it soon and with it will be a statement that I do not recommend any Semi-auto for duty or HD.....anyone want a custom 11-87 Police?JD McGuire, Owner
AI&P Tactical
Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
Mossberg LE Armorer
www.aiptactical.com
www.tacticalgunslings.com
If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.Comment
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