What was the AA12 made for?

[.44]

https://youtu.be/Sm8_U59brBw

[deadcoyote]

Lots of less developed countries still use lead bird shot for riot control purposes. African nations come to mind. I once saw a marketing video for the AA12 in which they said it was ideal for checkpoint duty with the military.

[elSquid]

There were a variety of military projects in the 70s/80s for multiprojectile weapons.

The write up for the HK CAWS has an overview:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_CAWS

[SandHill]

To my knowledge, lethal weapons have never once been used in riot control world wide.

Then your knowledge is so incredibly limited there is no way to have a conversation. Willful ignorance is the only possible explanation.

If you had taken a minute to ask Google, you would have found lots of examples. Hong Kong, Myanmar, Thailand and Venezuela are current / recent examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=poli...hrome&ie=UTF-8

If you tried you could find many more.

[Olderfart]

After the LA Riots and the problems that we had to endure, I bought a USAS 12 semi-auto 12 gauge shotgun. I spent a lot of time refining it and eventually had it coated black Teflon - Very uncommon at that time. It functioned perfectly with winchester 00 Buck but lowered powered birdshot wouldn't cycle it reliably.
20 round drums were readily available. It was a good tool if you had to hold a fixed position but I sure wouldn't of wanted to carry it for any length of time with spare magazines. I finally sold it when it became classified as a Destructive devise and needed to be registered. Because of it's weight it was exceedingly easy to control. I shot trap with it once with 00buck because I lost bet. I only was able to hit 6 in one session but it sure was a conversation piece for the rest of the day. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKbC7ldO3fY

[BajaJames83]

Clear a room very quickly

[jorgi23]

watched John Wick 3 last night, the last scene in the hotel, that would have been a great weapon to have...

most of this weapons are buyable great marketing!

[DaveInOroValley]

Plenty of Saiga-12's with drums out there too.

[DaveInOroValley]

[Quiet]

To my knowledge, lethal weapons have never once been used in riot control world wide.

Then your knowledge is so incredibly limited there is no way to have a conversation. Willful ignorance is the only possible explanation.

If you had taken a minute to ask Google, you would have found lots of examples. Hong Kong, Myanmar, Thailand and Venezuela are current / recent examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=poli...hrome&ie=UTF-8

If you tried you could find many more.

Other examples...

In 2014, Ukrainian Gov forces employed lethal weapons against Ukrainian citizens protesting their Gov.
^Suppressed sniper rifles that were used on protest leaders and shotguns with bird shot on the crowds.

During the 1960s-1990s, the Israeli Gov employed lethal weapons against Palestinian protestors.
^Suppressed .22LR rifles that were used on protest leaders.

During the 1910s-1980s, the UK Gov employed lethal weapons against Irish protestors.
^Machine guns and sniper rifles were employed against suspected IRA members that were part of public protests.

[Olav]

Interesting, top of the AA12 “hand guard” deforms in slow motion…

[Quiet]

What was the AA12 made for?

An automatic, drum-fed shotgun. I’m trying to understand why it was designed and put into production, aside from it being badass. Does it have a practical function in war or riot control?

1972-1986 = 1st gen AA-12, the Atchisson Assault-12 (pre-'86 Title 2 MG). It was originally designed and made for US Military trials for a combat shotgun.

1988-current = 2nd gen AA-12, the Daewoo Precision Industries USAS-12 (post-'86 Title 2 MG and Title 1 Shotgun that was later declared to be a Title 2 DD) and S&T Daewoo USAS-12 (post-'86 Title 2 MG). The original design was product improved, then made and sold by South Korea for the world market.
^Gov/Mil/LE forces in South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, UAE, Peru, and Brazil have utilized it.

2005-current = 3rd gen AA-12, the MPS Inc AA-12 (post-'86 Title 2 MG). Further development and product improved, then made and sold as a Gov/Mil/LE only shotgun for crowd control and area denial, utilizing 12Gauge specialty ammo (tear/pepper gas, frag/explosive, etc).
^Don't know of any country's Gov/Mil/LE that has adopted it. The entertainment industry (movie/video games/etc) appears to be it's biggest user.

2018-2019 = 3rd gen AA-12, the Sol Invictus Arms AA-12 (Title 1 Shotgun that was later declared to be a post-'86 Title 2 MG). The lead designer that developed the 3rd gen AA-12, left MPS Inc and modified it to be made and sold as a civilian legal semi-auto only variant. In 2019, it was declared to be a illegal Title 2 MG, due to MPS Inc demonstrating to the BATFE on how easy it was to convert it to full-auto, and they were all confiscated by the BATFE.

[stilly]

It was clearly made to strike fear into the hearts of all of those that saw FPS Russia use it on those zombies on his range...

[k1dude]

It's amazing how little recoil that AA12 appears to have.

[bohoki]

It's amazing how little recoil that AA12 appears to have.

yea fps russian did a good demo of it i like the functional cut away version watching it bottom out once on the secondary spring then the next it stops 3 coils from bottoming out

there is so much room in the center of the drum why can they do a double turn spring and 2 rows of shells should get the capacity up to 30 the shell rim i guess is the issue against a double stack mag