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  • #16
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    Originally posted by pennstater
    And this is all you need. Personally, never liked all the razzle dazzle on some of these HD shotguns. Too much weight and stuff hanging off of them. Just my opinion, that is all. Likin' BR's version.
    Thanks! I will confess that my two other HD designated shotguns have a bit of aftermarket gadgetry, but that Marine Magnum will never be anything but bone stock.

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    • #17
      W.R.Buchanan
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3381

      The only thing I'd add to any of these is a light so you could see what you're shooting at night. Many ways to do that. I personally like the Magpul Fore End with a 3" piece of pic rail either underneath or on the side of the fore end.

      Recently posted this pic on another thread. It's a Mossberg but the 870 furniture looks exactly the same.

      Randy

      Last edited by W.R.Buchanan; 08-05-2020, 9:03 AM.
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      • #18
        The War Wagon
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2011
        • 10294

        I was in a gunshop ca. 1990, in a small city in NC, and saw a S&W mariner shotgun, with a factory side folder. Can't even REMEMBER what model it was, but it was SOOOOO cool, and I was SOOOOO broke.

        Even if it was a crap model, I'd SPEND the money today, to make it a performer.
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        • #19
          Kokopelli
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 3419

          Originally posted by BOBGBA
          Pics of your 1300, please.

          Not SS but my 1300 is all the shotgun I could ever need. When going to the range, all my friends want to shoot mine after trying it. Their other shotguns are jealous. I have 4 different chokes for it.

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          • #20
            Spyder
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2008
            • 17167

            I'm a long time Mossberg fan because of the safety position. It's the quickest and easiest for me to use, and I grew up hunting upland birds with one so it's ingrained. Any of them listed will work fine for you, if you don't have a connection to anything in particular.

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            • #21
              uzigalil
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1180

              send any shotgun you have here and get it coated. This was designed for marine applications.

              Discover Black-T® for superior rust & corrosion protection on metals like steel, aluminum & more. Ideal for firearms, automotive & marine applications.

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              • #22
                jyo
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2008
                • 5319

                Personally, I grew-up with and prefer the Remington 870 shotgun---the pictured 870 Marine would be exactly what you're looking for...

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                • #23
                  blackberg
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 3060

                  Here is mine , it’s hard to get a proper pic,
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                  • #24
                    rubbman
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 652

                    Originally posted by HOTWHEELS1
                    The BRNELLI M4 H2O.
                    This!
                    I once pondered over the debate of 9mm vs. .40, then I was introduced to .38 super and 10mm and forgot all about it.

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                    • #25
                      Bobby Ricigliano
                      Mit Gott und Mauser
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17439

                      The Remington vs Mossberg debate is older than dirt. My first pump was an older 870 Express which always ran good and still does. Then on to the Ithaca M37, which is great to carry around, but gives you a good whatfer with slugs and buck.

                      Finally got around to a 590A1 and I do love that shotgun. I created a small mountain of hulls on the first range trip. Bird, buck, a few slugs. The ghost ring sight is perfect for me. You never think anything above a bead is needed on a shotgun until you try it.

                      I realize pump shotguns don’t need meticulous cleaning like other systems do, but in giving it a proper one after the range, the takedown is a bit confusing at first for someone like me who isn’t mechanically inclined.

                      Now, with both systems, I can’t say I have a clear favorite. As soon as I can find a nice Ithaca M37 DS Special, it will become an even tougher call.

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                      • #26
                        W.R.Buchanan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3381

                        Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                        The Remington vs Mossberg debate is older than dirt. My first pump was an older 870 Express which always ran good and still does. Then on to the Ithaca M37, which is great to carry around, but gives you a good whatfer with slugs and buck.

                        Finally got around to a 590A1 and I do love that shotgun. I created a small mountain of hulls on the first range trip. Bird, buck, a few slugs. The ghost ring sight is perfect for me. You never think anything above a bead is needed on a shotgun until you try it.

                        I realize pump shotguns don’t need meticulous cleaning like other systems do, but in giving it a proper one after the range, the takedown is a bit confusing at first for someone like me who isn’t mechanically inclined.

                        Now, with both systems, I can’t say I have a clear favorite. As soon as I can find a nice Ithaca M37 DS Special, it will become an even tougher call.
                        The Ithaca's are great field guns but leave alot to be desired as Tactical Guns. There is only one way to load it and that is thru the magazine. You can't load into the ejection port as that is also the loading port, and the lifter blocks the cartridge if the bolt is open, so the bolt must be closed so the the mag can be loaded..

                        Where this shows up is when the gun is empty and you have no time to reload the magazine. You need to be able to load one at a time to keep firing. And you can,,, you just have to stuff one in the mag and then do a full rack for each new round.

                        The other guns you only do a Half Rack each time and that cuts down on the time needed to single load the gun. You eject the spent round, leave the slide back, insert a new round in the ejection port, and close the bolt, ready to fire.

                        With the Ithaca you fire, stuff one in the mag tube do a full rack to eject spent round and chamber new one, and ready to fire. You could learn to do this as long as you know when you fired your last round? If you racked it and ejected the last spent round you have to close the bolt in order to load the next round then rack it again to chamber the new round.

                        Other than that, if you can learn it, it will do the job, it just doesn't run quite as good as a 870 or 590.

                        My 1940 Ithaca M37 is the absolute slickest Pump Action Shotgun I have ever touched and as a bird or skeet gun it is SOOOO nice! For anything else I'll take the Mossbergs or Browning A5 every time.

                        They are just faster to run!

                        Randy

                        Just found out Ithaca made both Smoothbore Deerslayer Barrels and Rifled ones. I did not know that.
                        Last edited by W.R.Buchanan; 06-19-2020, 8:02 PM.
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                        • #27
                          -hanko
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14174

                          Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                          My 1940 Ithaca M37 is the absolute slickest Pump Action Shotgun I have ever touched and as a bird or skeet gun it is SOOOO nice! For anything else I'll take the Mossbergs or Browning A5 every time.

                          They are just faster to run!

                          Randy
                          I've got an M37 that I found at a Boise gun show, good shape and paid $200 iirc.

                          I called Ithaca for any info on the gun's prior life. Ithaca said it was one of 2 dozen shipped to the Baltimore Navy Yard in 1940 and no further info after that.

                          The gun has no military markings.

                          I've got an A5 Light 12 and a regular 20, both are great shooters. I had a Mossberg (first shotgun) with a 28" barrel and PolyChoke. A pretty sloppy action. A great gun for ducks and geese, especially if you're laying down in a rice paddy where cows were feeding the day before...lots of poop, worms, and only God knows what else. No issues over the years except a broken extractor, left side.
                          Last edited by -hanko; 06-19-2020, 8:38 PM.
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                          • #28
                            W.R.Buchanan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3381

                            Originally posted by -hanko
                            I've got an M37 that I found at a Boise gun show, good shape and paid $200 iirc.

                            I called Ithaca for any info on the gun's prior life. Ithaca said it was one of 2 dozen shipped to the Baltimore Navy Yard in 1940 and no further info after that.

                            The gun has no military markings.
                            Is the gun Parkerized? Nothing like Provenance to increase value.

                            That gun was a find!

                            Randy
                            Last edited by W.R.Buchanan; 06-19-2020, 9:06 PM.
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                            Rule #2 Whatever they accuse you of, they are already doing.
                            Rule #3 Liberals lie about anything no matter how insignificant.
                            Rule #4 If all else fails, they call you a Racist!

                            It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It is how well you do what you don't know how to do.
                            www.buchananprecisionmachine.com

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                            • #29
                              -hanko
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14174

                              Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                              Is the gun Parkerized? Nothing like Provenance to increase value.

                              That gun was a find!

                              Randy
                              It is indeed parked, and it's definitely original park.
                              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                              Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                              A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                              • #30
                                Bobby Ricigliano
                                Mit Gott und Mauser
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 17439

                                Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                                The Ithaca's are great field guns but leave alot to be desired as Tactical Guns. There is only one way to load it and that is thru the magazine. You can't load into the ejection port as that is also the loading port, and the lifter blocks the cartridge if the bolt is open, so the bolt must be closed so the the mag can be loaded..

                                Where this shows up is when the gun is empty and you have no time to reload the magazine. You need to be able to load one at a time to keep firing. And you can,,, you just have to stuff one in the mag and then do a full rack for each new round.

                                The other guns you only do a Half Rack each time and that cuts down on the time needed to single load the gun. You eject the spent round, leave the slide back, insert a new round in the ejection port, and close the bolt, ready to fire.

                                With the Ithaca you fire, stuff one in the mag tube do a full rack to eject spent round and chamber new one, and ready to fire. You could learn to do this as long as you know when you fired your last round? If you racked it and ejected the last spent round you have to close the bolt in order to load the next round then rack it again to chamber the new round.

                                Other than that, if you can learn it, it will do the job, it just doesn't run quite as good as a 870 or 590.

                                My 1940 Ithaca M37 is the absolute slickest Pump Action Shotgun I have ever touched and as a bird or skeet gun it is SOOOO nice! For anything else I'll take the Mossbergs or Browning A5 every time.

                                They are just faster to run!

                                Randy

                                Just found out Ithaca made both Smoothbore Deerslayer Barrels and Rifled ones. I did not know that.

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