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  • #16
    Ajlopez281
    Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 187

    Originally posted by shovelon
    Most common 20 gauge shell for skeet or trap is 7/8oz, #7.5-#9 shot, low recoil up to 1200fps. I have a ton of #8 shot myself and it works well. The ranges won't let you shoot lead any bigger than #7.5 shot anyway. IDK but Redlands may have shells for sale for you to use. Walmart even sells shotgun shells. I prefer #7.5 shot for sporting clays, but #8 will work. Anything for trap shooting is good.

    Good Luck and have fun. Wish you were closer. Would like to shoot with you sometime.


    From what the website says, max load is 3 dram ( no clue what that means) and shot size is 7-1/2 to 9 with max speed of 1250fps.
    That would be cool to get out and shoot.


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    • #17
      NapalmCheese
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      • Feb 2011
      • 5954

      Originally posted by Ajlopez281
      From what the website says, max load is 3 dram ( no clue what that means) and shot size is 7-1/2 to 9 with max speed of 1250fps.
      Basically, it means pretty much any of the 'cheap' ammo will work.

      Dram equivalents harken back to the days of black powder shotgun loads and loosely correlate to payload weight + velocity. In other words a 3 dram equivalent 12 gauge round would send a 1-1/8 ounce payload out at 1200 fps or so.
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      • #18
        NapalmCheese
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2011
        • 5954

        Originally posted by Ajlopez281
        From what I remember when I looked at it, the chokes are modified and improved.
        Improved has a couple of different meanings, Improved Cylinder is more open than Mod, and Improved Mod is less open. If it just says 'Imp' it's probably Improved Cylinder (I.C.).

        IC is more open than Mod, so use the IC barrel for closer targets and the Mod barrel for farther targets. If you shoot trap, stick to using the Mod barrel.
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        • #19
          Thefeeder
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 5007

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          You're new to shotguns, so here is my advise. Go get some shells, target #7 1/2 or 8 shot, go shoot some Skeet or Trap, have fun and enjoy your new shotgun.

          Be safe, follow the range rules and listen for advise from the Greyhairs, they will teach you

          The fine details are just not that meaningful at this point

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          • #20
            bigbearbear
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5378

            The only thing to watch out for is to make sure you buy TARGET type birdshots in either #7.5, #8 or #9 shot sizes. There are hunting loads which you can buy but most clay shooting ranges will not let you use them.

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            • #21
              Ducky's Dad
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 737

              The only thing to watch out for is to make sure you buy TARGET type birdshots in either #7.5, #8 or #9 shot sizes. There are hunting loads which you can buy but most clay shooting ranges will not let you use them.
              BS. Any lead field load of 7-1/2 or smaller, 1-1/8oz or less, 3 DE or less is fine. Walmart promo loads are fine. You don't need target loads for casual clays, and it's generally a waste of money, especially for a noob. And target loads are generally high antimony, which makes the pellets harder, to hold tight patterns. Tight patterns may be the last thing the OP needs with this gun and his skill level.

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              • #22
                Ajlopez281
                Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 187

                I’ll just buy the shells at the park the first one then I know what to get when I go again. Thank you guys for all the tips
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                • #23
                  Ducky's Dad
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 737

                  ScottB, I was responding to bigbearbear, who said:
                  make sure you buy TARGET type birdshots
                  Emphasis his.
                  The promo and dual purpose (Field & Range or whatever a given manufacturer calls them) are not really target loads. True target loads are AA, STS, Gold Medal, etc. They are considerably more expensive than the promo loads, so a waste of money for a total noob. The promo loads are usually 3-4% antimony, while true target loads will generally be 5-6% antimony.

                  Walmart loads (Winchester or Federal) are target loads as defined by their shot size, weight and charge.
                  Most of them are field loads with a new label and a little more antimony. There is nothing magic about a 20ga load of 7/8oz at 1200fps. That does not make it a target load, but it will break targets.

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                  • #24
                    bigbearbear
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5378

                    Originally posted by Ducky's Dad
                    BS. Any lead field load of 7-1/2 or smaller, 1-1/8oz or less, 3 DE or less is fine. Walmart promo loads are fine. You don't need target loads for casual clays, and it's generally a waste of money, especially for a noob. And target loads are generally high antimony, which makes the pellets harder, to hold tight patterns. Tight patterns may be the last thing the OP needs with this gun and his skill level.
                    What do you call these? Notice how they all say "Target" on the box? They're around $5 a box, very cheap to shoot. You can even reload the Gun Club hulls, making them an even better value.







                    These are what I used on the range, and for those new to shooting clay targets, I recommend looking for boxes that says "Target" on it because they are always ok to use. If you buy something that is loaded for hunting, chances are you might end up with a magnum type shell and the range officer will ask you not to use it.

                    Like everything else, there are of course more expensive options such as Winchester AA and Remington STS. However, even if the OP ended up buying those, they too will be ok to use at the range.

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                    • #25
                      Ducky's Dad
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                      • Dec 2012
                      • 737

                      What do you call these? Notice how they all say "Target" on the box?
                      I call them promotional loads. Built to be a low price, all purpose load, not a true target shell. There is a reason they are $5 a box. They work, fill a niche in the market, fine for casual clays and practice. The Rem Gun Clubs are probably the best of the bunch, reputed to be the best cheap hull for reloading. My point was that AA, STS and Gold Medals are also marked as target loads, but would be a waste of money for the OP. Win white box or Super-X can also be had cheaply, not marked target. Same for the Federal blue box field loads or the Rem Dove & Quail loads. Shot size, charge weight, and velocity are more important than how the box is labeled. Any of the loads you posted will work, but if OP (as a noob) goes out and buys true, dedicated target loads, he will get less bang for his buck.

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                      • #26
                        bigbearbear
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                        • Jun 2011
                        • 5378

                        Originally posted by Ducky's Dad
                        I call them promotional loads. Built to be a low price, all purpose load, not a true target shell. There is a reason they are $5 a box. They work, fill a niche in the market, fine for casual clays and practice. The Rem Gun Clubs are probably the best of the bunch, reputed to be the best cheap hull for reloading. My point was that AA, STS and Gold Medals are also marked as target loads, but would be a waste of money for the OP. Win white box or Super-X can also be had cheaply, not marked target. Same for the Federal blue box field loads or the Rem Dove & Quail loads. Shot size, charge weight, and velocity are more important than how the box is labeled. Any of the loads you posted will work, but if OP (as a noob) goes out and buys true, dedicated target loads, he will get less bang for his buck.
                        I know what those are, I took those pic in my garage. But for someone new to shooting clay targets, how are they going to know? And that's why I always recommend that they look for something that says "Target" on the box. If you bring something like that to the range, for sure you can use it. But for someone who is new, shopping for ammo can be confusing, having to juggle the correct caliber, shot size, shot weight and speed etc.

                        Whether or not they are "true" target or not, it is really up to the shooter. The manufacturer labels them as such and it is easier for those new to sport to look for them.

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                        • #27
                          NapalmCheese
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                          • Feb 2011
                          • 5954

                          Originally posted by bigbearbear
                          I know what those are, I took those pic in my garage. But for someone new to shooting clay targets, how are they going to know?
                          Advise them to read the box flap and buy the cheapest box whatever gauge 2-3/4 inch, 7.5 or 8 shot, 1200 fps +/- 50ps?
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                          • #28
                            Trapdude86
                            Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 297

                            Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                            Improved has a couple of different meanings, Improved Cylinder is more open than Mod, and Improved Mod is less open.
                            That is incorrect. Improved has one meaning. It means an improved version of the choke mentioned. Improved as in more tight.

                            Cylinder
                            Skeet
                            Improved Cylinder
                            Light Modified
                            Modified
                            Improved Modified
                            Light Full
                            Full
                            Extra Full
                            Then even extra extra full like turkey
                            Last edited by Trapdude86; 06-11-2018, 12:32 PM. Reason: Typo

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                            • #29
                              NapalmCheese
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                              • Feb 2011
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                              Originally posted by Trapdude86
                              That is incorrect. Improved has one meaning. It means an improved version of the choke mentioned. Improved as in more tight.

                              Improved Cylinder
                              Improved Modified
                              If something is marked 'Imp' which is it?
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                              • #30
                                Ajlopez281
                                Member
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 187

                                Originally posted by Trapdude86
                                That is incorrect. Improved has one meaning. It means an improved version of the choke mentioned. Improved as in more tight.

                                Cylinder
                                Skeet
                                Improved Cylinder
                                Light Modified
                                Modified
                                Improved Modified
                                Light Full
                                Full
                                Extra Full
                                Then even extra extra full like turkey


                                So, since my shotgun says improved and modified, I can take it as the improved is an improved modified choke?


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