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  • #16
    LowThudd
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3608

    As I stated, the Walmarts near me no longer sell ammunition. I'm in the SFV which is in the City of LA. So that won't work. I'll just get the estate at Big5 or the Browning at Turners.

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    • #17
      CRamII
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 88

      Walmart Winchester Universal 4-pack

      Originally posted by BOBGBA
      Anything except the Winchester Universal 4-Pack that is sold at Walmart.
      Anything wrong with Walmart Winchester Universal 4-pack?? please enlighten me. I've been using it with no issues on Remington Versamax Tactical Competion, Beretta A400 Excel, and Beretta O/U Gold Sporting. Should I refrain from buying those? Thanks

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      • #18
        BOBGBA
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2010
        • 2392

        Originally posted by CRamII
        Anything wrong with Walmart Winchester Universal 4-pack?? please enlighten me. I've been using it with no issues on Remington Versamax Tactical Competion, Beretta A400 Excel, and Beretta O/U Gold Sporting. Should I refrain from buying those? Thanks
        On a couple of occasions, I've seen a different guns (pumps and over/unders) that had problems ejecting them. Immediately after having a couple of stuck shells, when we switched to a different brand, there were no more stuck shells for the rest of the day.

        It seemed to me that upon firing, something on the shell (either the base or the plastic part of the hull or both) was distorting enough to make it stick in the chamber.

        The pump gun was extremely hard to clear and the over/under had ejectors that wouldn't budge the shell.

        I don't recall observing the problem in a semi-auto, but that could be due to 3 things that I can think of:
        1) not many guys use a semi auto where I shoot
        2) the few guys that shoot semi's seem to use remington gun club or federal and don't shoot the winchester universals
        3) maybe the semi autos exerts enough (more) force to overcome the problem

        It's the only shotgun shell (and we shoot just about every brand) that I've seen have this problem and it was on more than one occasion. So I've decided never to shoot it or recommend it. I'd rather buy the Federal 4-pack that's the same price or even buy shells that cost more (I like remington gun club). I'd rather not encounter a stuck shell while shooting a round of skeet.

        If they work for you and you're happy with them, that's great. Maybe we just ran into a bad batch, but that was enough for me to decide there's no need to use them.
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        • #19
          beetle
          The Clip guy
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2009
          • 1677

          Originally posted by CRamII
          Anything wrong with Walmart Winchester Universal 4-pack?? please enlighten me. I've been using it with no issues on Remington Versamax Tactical Competion, Beretta A400 Excel, and Beretta O/U Gold Sporting. Should I refrain from buying those? Thanks
          Same experience as BOBGA above. The Winchester Universals are problematic with my Beretta A400. Not enough ooomph to completely cycle.

          If Walmart has both, I prefer the Federal 4-pack. Same price, works better.

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          • #20
            Scratch705
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2009
            • 12537

            i am stocked currently on the cabelas herters 1oz 7.5 shot

            between the herters and the occasional wal-mart federal 100 packs, i haven't had to use anything else.
            Originally posted by leelaw
            Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
            Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
            Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
            Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
            Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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            • #21
              skeet25
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 96

              Currently, Cabela's has the Remington Game Loads on sale for $52.25 per flat. There is also a Remington rebate of $10/flat. You would need to buy 2 flats to get free shipping.

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              • #22
                Wheelsonly
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 549

                If I was spending time and money on a clinic why go cheap get good ammo so you don't have issues and you have better consistent shots to help you learn

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                • #23
                  DEFCON ZERO
                  Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 371

                  cheap Rem at Walmart = good in my old Rem 870.

                  cheap Win at Walmart = jamm-o-matic the 870.

                  Its worth the extra 22 vs 21 dollars a case.
                  DOES PEPPER SPRAY WORK? AFTER REPEATED POINT BLANK SHOTS TO THE FACE...OVER A SIMPLE WORKPLACE DISAGREEMENT??? you decide, and you will laught, too

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                  • #24
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12970

                    Originally posted by DEFCON ZERO
                    cheap Rem at Walmart = good in my old Rem 870.

                    cheap Win at Walmart = jamm-o-matic the 870.

                    Its worth the extra 22 vs 21 dollars a case.
                    Huh?

                    If you are getting jams in a pump-action 870 on ANY ammo, either something is seriously mechanically wrong with your Remington, or something is wrong with your hand/wrist/elbow/shoulder.

                    Just about any Remington 870, old, new, beat-up used Police surplus gun, or a rusted and neglected house gun, will work on any ammo - unless it's broken.
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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #25
                      BOBGBA
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 2392

                      Originally posted by The Gleam
                      Huh?...Just about any Remington 870, old, new, beat-up used Police surplus gun, or a rusted and neglected house gun, will work on any ammo - unless it's broken.
                      That may have been true years ago, but I believe that some ammo manufactured today is cheaply made and can expand in the chamber causing the 870 to fail to eject. The shell bases and plastic casings are not the same as they used to be. Cheaper materials are being used today. I have owned the same Wingmaster for 30+ years and have seen the problem.

                      Something to consider: Just because you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean it isn't true.
                      Last edited by BOBGBA; 09-01-2017, 2:40 PM.
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                      • #26
                        ceh383
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 2536

                        Originally posted by Wheelsonly
                        If I was spending time and money on a clinic why go cheap get good ammo so you don't have issues and you have better consistent shots to help you learn
                        No need to spend extra on the shells. Even the cheap shells will usually out perform the shooter. I've shot expensive, cheap and everything in-between shells, no difference in scores. Now if you plan to reload, that's where the higher cost shells are worth it.
                        Now the WIN value packs from Walmart do have other issues in some guns...Failure to feed/eject, I would stay away from these, anything else will do fine.
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                        • #27
                          BOBGBA
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 2392

                          Originally posted by ceh383
                          No need to spend extra on the shells. Even the cheap shells will usually out perform the shooter.
                          You're right. Shooter skill and consistency affect the score more than the brand of shells. If I could only learn to stay in the gun....
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                          • #28
                            Carcassonne
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 4897

                            My favorite is the Federal Top Gun shells. Experienced trap shooter claim Remington Gun Club shells are better. Both can outshoot me, but I still prefer the Federal shells.

                            Winchester el-cheapos seem to be the worst.



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                            • #29
                              The Gleam
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 12970

                              Originally posted by BOBGBA
                              That may have been true years ago, but I believe that some ammo manufactured today is cheaply made and can expand in the chamber causing the 870 to fail to eject. The shell bases and plastic casings are not the same as they used to be. Cheaper materials are being used today. I have owned the same Wingmaster for 30+ years and have seen the problem.

                              Something to consider: Just because you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean it isn't true.
                              I can get ANY 870, new or old, LEO beater or standard brand-new off the shelf, to not only work, but work reliably on any ammo.

                              Not saying the it could never happen, nor that it isn't true.

                              I'm saying' it's still the gun. Fix it.
                              Last edited by The Gleam; 09-01-2017, 10:26 PM.
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                              Originally posted by Librarian
                              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                              • #30
                                ceh383
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 2536

                                Originally posted by The Gleam
                                I can get ANY 870, new or old, LEO beater or standard brand-new off the shelf, to not only work, but work reliably on any ammo.

                                Not saying the it could never happen, nor that it isn't true.

                                I'm saying' it's still the gun. Fix it.
                                There have been many, many reports of these shells not ejecting over the last 10 years or so. It's not limited to the 870 either, other models and brands have had the problem, however it seems most prevalent in the 870 express. Polishing the chamber will help, but with these shells there is no 100% fix other than not using them.
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