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[xMAC1x]

I don't trust Midway USA anymore. I'll put them right next to Cheaper Than Dirt. Never thought I would say that. I bought a lot from midway.

[samrob77]

They cancelled all (5) of my back orders. I'm sure we'll see the same ammo available soon with a different part number and higher price. Add me to the list of lost midway customer.

[MaHoTex]

Mine were cancelled last night as well. I called them several months ago and asked about the policy of cancelling BOs and was told they do not do that anymore. I guess bubba was wrong.

I waited over a year for this BO to come through, they received and shipped MANY new orders of the exact same product without filling my BO.

Goodbye Midway.

[G21Shooter]

Same experience here... received a cancellation notice yesterday for a 5K MiniMag backorder placed 1/03/14 stating they cannot get the product from their vendor. Then today they are sellin the exact ammo they said they could not get... They have received the last dollar they will ever get from me... Liars.

Yeah flat out lying about their ammo stock is cheesy to say the least. Minimags are popping up for sale often at Midway limit 1000 rds so they are obviously getting the ammo from CCI. I don't think anyone would agree this is a correct way to run a business or treat customers.

How Midway should have handled it is at least shipping their customers with a case backorder of 5000 rounds their current limit of 1000 rounds so they get something instead of nothing.

[Oceanbob]

What bugs me is they 'Sell Out' in under one minute of any email notification I receive. I think I hit their website in under 30 seconds yesterday.......Sold Out, No Backorder.

Twice now....

[Spyder]

Yeah flat out lying about their ammo stock is cheesy to say the least. Minimags are popping up for sale often at Midway limit 1000 rds so they are obviously getting the ammo from CCI. I don't think anyone would agree this is a correct way to run a business or treat customers.

How Midway should have handled it is at least shipping their customers with a case backorder of 5000 rounds their current limit of 1000 rounds so they get something instead of nothing.

You guys realize that the process is all automated, right? The computer doesn't see "CCI Minimags in 5,000 round case" and CCI Minimags in 1,000 round case"

It sees "Item number 23487u234" and "Item number 23983287", and has NO idea that they are the same exact thing but in different size boxes.

[.45 ACP]

What bugs me is they 'Sell Out' in under one minute of any email notification I receive. I think I hit their website in under 30 seconds yesterday.......Sold Out, No Backorder.

Twice now....

Yup. That's pretty much what happened to me. Saw the email, ordered a 1000 case, and then submit. 2 minutes later I go back, and it says "Sold out no backorder". You have to be quick.

Also, I'm not sure why everyone here is belly aching about Midway not being able to fulfill backorders. CCI is simply not sending enough product to fulfill your 5 orders of 5,000 minimags. How again is that Midway's fault? It's not like they make the CCI mags themselves. If CCI isn't making 5000 cases for shipping out, which I'm sure are different than the 1000 cases that are sold piece meal, then boo hoo. Get over it. It's not Midway's fault. Go blame CCI for not fulfilling their part.

The problem with this 22lr shortage and price wars is actually partially your guys fault who hoard enormous amounts of this ammo for resale, or just because you want 100,000 rounds of 22lr. Damn dudes, stop being so greedy and let us sub-10,000 round guys get some.

[Eljay]

You guys realize that the process is all automated, right? The computer doesn't see "CCI Minimags in 5,000 round case" and CCI Minimags in 1,000 round case"

It sees "Item number 23487u234" and "Item number 23983287", and has NO idea that they are the same exact thing but in different size boxes.

Yeah, but somebody at Midway chose to break the cases apart into sleeves and enter them as sleeves instead of cases. They come from CCI in cases, that's sort of the point.

[CessnaDriver]

So, where to go next I guess is the question?
Any bulk orders offered anywhere else at similar pricing?

[Eljay]

Also, I'm not sure why everyone here is belly aching about Midway not being able to fulfill backorders. CCI is simply not sending enough product to fulfill your 5 orders of 5,000 minimags. How again is that Midway's fault? It's not like they make the CCI mags themselves. If CCI isn't making 5000 cases for shipping out, which I'm sure are different than the 1000 cases that are sold piece meal, then boo hoo. Get over it. It's not Midway's fault. Go blame CCI for not fulfilling their part.

Nice straw horse. What people are complaining about is how they handled it. Nobody forced them to take tens of thousands of backorders. Nobody even knew that's how many they were racking up. Nobody forced them to randomly sometimes but sometimes not cancel back orders a few thousand at a time. Make announcements that it was related to a one year expiration, then that there wouldn't be any one year cancellations for .22, then that specific orders were canceled for lack of supply on the very same day that they listed the item for sale broken up into smaller pieces.

It's just really amateur hour over there. Everybody else turned off backorders. Midway did so too... and then turned them back on again for months. Why, when they couldn't get any product? Who knows.

I'm not all that upset - it helps that the CMP came through on their backorders and I'm sitting on a good amount of .22 - but I find it irritating enough that given all the vendors out there I don't see any reason to do business with Midway again. There's a TON of companies selling gun stuff out there and there's no reason to patronize the worst 2-3 of them.

[Eljay]

Oh, and the thing that's irritating about their email notifications is that they continue to send them out after the item is already gone. It takes them a couple of hours to send notifications for a popular item that might be gone in minutes. Other companies either made their notifications smarter or they just turned them off until things got better (Freedom Munitions leaps to mind).

I think they're hoping that people will assume they were just slow but if you follow the ammo threads you can see that the item can be sold out long, long, before the last emails get sent out. They haven't really caught onto the idea that we talk to each other.

[.45 ACP]

Nice straw horse. What people are complaining about is how they handled it. Nobody forced them to take tens of thousands of backorders. Nobody even knew that's how many they were racking up. Nobody forced them to randomly sometimes but sometimes not cancel back orders a few thousand at a time. Make announcements that it was related to a one year expiration, then that there wouldn't be any one year cancellations for .22, then that specific orders were canceled for lack of supply on the very same day that they listed the item for sale broken up into smaller pieces.

It's just really amateur hour over there. Everybody else turned off backorders. Midway did so too... and then turned them back on again for months. Why, when they couldn't get any product? Who knows.

I'm not all that upset - it helps that the CMP came through on their backorders and I'm sitting on a good amount of .22 - but I find it irritating enough that given all the vendors out there I don't see any reason to do business with Midway again. There's a TON of companies selling gun stuff out there and there's no reason to patronize the worst 2-3 of them.

Trust me I sympathize with you, but again, can you explain how this is Midway's fault in a logical, non-emotional way? Midway is just a vendor. They don't make CCI ammo.

So at the time you made your back order, they could have been told by CCI "Yeah we're going to fulfill the backorders, no problem." Then when they cancelled your back order, CCI may have told them, "Umm, no way we're going to be making those 5,000 per case mini mag orders."

How is this Midway's fault again? Trust me, I know how you feel but blaming this on Midway just seems like an emotional, sort of crybaby, response.

Honestly I hope all the hoarder's stop shopping at Midway so us regular guys who aren't hoarding for zombies, or reselling on Craigslist can actually buy ammo to shoot.

[Eljay]

Again, can you explain how this is Midway's fault in a logical, non-emotional way? [...] just seems like an emotional, sort of crybaby, response.

You know, if on the slight chance you aren't purposefully trolling I'll just drop you the hint that calling people crybabies while ignoring the prior responses and bringing up the same straw horses isn't going to solicit a polite response.

[junior40er]

they shipped a few cases that were on backorder for the past couple months. Last package shipment notification I got was yesterday.

[.45 ACP]

You know, if on the slight chance you aren't purposefully trolling I'll just drop you the hint that calling people crybabies while ignoring the prior responses and bringing up the same straw horses isn't going to solicit a polite response.

I'm not saying you personally are a crybaby, but I feel the response is sort of childish. i.e - "Midway wouldn't fulfill my 5000 order (because they simply don't have it because CCI didn't give it to them to sell), so now I hate Midway forever and will never give them money."

Does that make sense at all? It doesn't to me. It's illogical and emotion based.

By your own admission, you're good with .22lr, have plenty, Midway didn't take your money, they just couldn't fulfill your order because they don't have the product to sell. No skin off your nose, right?