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  • DrVino
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 378

    .22 short in .22LR bolt action rifle

    I'm curious: What is the worst thing that can happen if I fire a .22 short cartridge through a .22LR bolt action rifle (Ruger American Rimfire, if it matters)?
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    Tekkno
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 461

    All .22 ammo other than .22 mag should be able to fire from a .22lr gun (if you feed them as a single shot)

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    • #3
      billybob_jcv
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1507

      I used to shoot 22 shorts in a single-shot bolt-action 22 LR rifle all the time. I also used to shoot shorts in an old tube-feed Remington semi-auto 22 rifle. It's just not going to work if you try to put them in a long rifle magazine.
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      • #4
        DrVino
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 378

        OK. Is there any reason to worry about damaging the rifling? The chamber?
        Since it's a shorter cartridge, the lip of the casing does not come up to where an LR would, so I would expect the .22 Short projectile not to engage the rifling the way an LR would. Subsequently, I'm curious if this poses a risk of damage to the rifling.
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        • #5
          Guns R Tools
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1782

          It's soft lead. Damage unlikely. Accuracy might suffer.
          Also 22 short tends to be more expensive than 22 LR, used to be anyways.
          'Cuz big holes are easier to see.

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          I welcome it. How else would I learn.

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          • #6
            nrakid88
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 3285

            I am thinking that the carbon fouling from firing a TON of shorts would hinder the extraction of firing lr's afterwards... that is until you properly clean the gun. Only reason I say this is a buddy has a .22 rolling block browning that won't extract lr's, but will for shorts. No idea if its well maintained.
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            • #7
              MountainDew
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 381

              Originally posted by DrVino
              I'm curious: What is the worst thing that can happen if I fire a .22 short cartridge through a .22LR bolt action rifle (Ruger American Rimfire, if it matters)?
              even if it destroys the gun its only a ruger American...no big loss

              on a serious note as long as its fed one at a time IE, no mag feeding your probably GTG.
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              • #8
                DavidR310
                CGSSA Coordinator
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2011
                • 3116

                Originally posted by Guns R Tools
                It's soft lead. Damage unlikely. Accuracy might suffer.
                Also 22 short tends to be more expensive than 22 LR, used to be anyways.
                ANY 22 I come across I will buy it, short, long or long rifle and even 22 magnum.

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                • #9
                  DrVino
                  Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 378

                  Originally posted by MountainDew
                  even if it destroys the gun its only a ruger American...no big loss .
                  Don't knock it. It's a good rifle. Not some match grade gun, but I zeroed it to 75 yards and I hit a tennis ball at that distance consistently.

                  It's a good rabbit gun.
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                  • #10
                    SonofWWIIDI
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                    • Nov 2011
                    • 21583

                    My vintage winchester model 69 says right on the barrel
                    .22 short, .22 long, .22 long rifle.
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                    • #11
                      MountainDew
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 381

                      Originally posted by DrVino
                      Don't knock it. It's a good rifle. Not some match grade gun, but I zeroed it to 75 yards and I hit a tennis ball at that distance consistently.

                      It's a good rabbit gun.
                      Hey buddy whatever sinks your ship. I just know that the ones I've held felt cheap and fragile and when I can pick up a savage for slightly more on sale and have out of the box tack driver the choice is obvious.
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                      • #12
                        AR22
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 2141

                        There was actually a time way back when .22 shorts were alot cheaper than Longs or LR.

                        Alot of old antique pumps anjd Bolt Firearms were shot with the old .22 shorts and alot of chambers were corroded because of it. Mostly because of lack of cleaning. And way back .22 ammo was more corrosive than it is today.

                        Today however you will not have the problems that occurred 80 or 100 years ago. You will have no problem using the shorts in the Ruger..

                        You could get carbon buildup hindering clambering, extraction of the LR as mentioned, if it is not cleaned really good first. Would take alot of shorts fired a long time without cleaning to hinder the LR though.

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                        • #13
                          Mr. Beretta
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 6613

                          OP......Shoot the shorts!

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                          • #14
                            covingtonhouse
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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2170

                            Had a Marlin 60 that loved them. Feed one t a time. Head shots on squirrels all day long.
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                            • #15
                              Occams Rasor
                              Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 490

                              If you are shooting shorts to reduce noise, try some CCI Quiets (.22lr).
                              Shot some with my RAR and no louder than a air gun. No ear plugs needed.
                              They also feed from the magazine. I think they are about the same price as
                              .22 shorts. Rated at ~750fpm.

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