The 22 lr ammo reselling racket

[MARX7]

I just paid $90 for two boxes of 525 federal bulk. I guess you can say I got ripped or whatever it may be. But I couldn't find the damn bullets anywhere.

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[bollero]

flag all scumm on CL trying to sell ammo

[vintagearms]

yea, those scum bags that buy them from the manufacturer then resell them to distributors (for a profit), who sells them to local retailers (for a profit), who then sell them to you (for a profit). oh wait, your mad at the guy buying them and reselling them to someone (for a profit)? sorry, i must have gotten supply and demand confused somewhere.

why would you be ok with a second middleman and increased cost?

[Izzy43]

For heavens sake if the price is too high, don't flipping buy it. Complaining about a problem never, ever, ever helped solve it. Just don't buy the ammo if you think you are being ripped off. It's that easy. These folks selling ammo at crazy high prices are only successful because others are paying the crazy high price. Get it? It ain't rocket science. Prices will decline when supply exceeds demand, no matter the reason for the short supply.

[Merc1138]

For heavens sake if the price is too high, don't flipping buy it. Complaining about a problem never, ever, ever helped solve it. Just don't buy the ammo if you think you are being ripped off. It's that easy. These folks selling ammo at crazy high prices are only successful because others are paying the crazy high price. Get it? It ain't rocket science. Prices will decline when supply exceeds demand, no matter the reason for the short supply.

Sense?

Bah, there's no need for that.

[dacolan]

yea, those scum bags that buy them from the manufacturer then resell them to distributors (for a profit), who sells them to local retailers (for a profit), who then sell them to you (for a profit). oh wait, your mad at the guy buying them and reselling them to someone (for a profit)? sorry, i must have gotten supply and demand confused somewhere.

Distributors who specialize in logistics are often more efficient (i.e.: cheaper) than a manufacturer handling their own distribution, thus they actually are adding value. Same goes with retailers. Manufacturers generally don't handle distribution better than a logistics company, or consumer point-of-sale retail better than retailers. Specialization (manufacturing, logistics, retail sales channels, etc) increases efficiencies, which ultimately lowers costs. Something tells me you're not completely up to speed on the whole supply chain side of supply and demand.

[james29]

I tried to keep quiet on this threa but I can't help it.
If you look around good buys on 22 are around.
If a resellers price or local gun shop is too high For you then DON'T BUY.
If someone wants to sell them for ridiculous prices that's their business not mine, hence it dosent bother me it's none of my business.

[dacolan]

For heavens sake if the price is too high, don't flipping buy it. Complaining about a problem never, ever, ever helped solve it. Just don't buy the ammo if you think you are being ripped off. It's that easy. These folks selling ammo at crazy high prices are only successful because others are paying the crazy high price. Get it? It ain't rocket science. Prices will decline when supply exceeds demand, no matter the reason for the short supply.

What you perceive/misinterpret as complaining is nothing more than a simple warning to fellow CGers of the wolves in sheep's clothing and pointing out the alternatives (i.e.: buying online in bulk). The more shooters we can make aware of the alternatives the sooner these price-gouging middlemen will disappear.

[PoorRichRichard]

Sorry guys, but all your whining and ranting about those of us who turn ammo for a few bucks in profit just makes me laugh. You make is seem as if we are some evil venture-capitalists turning a 300% profit. I only profit about $10 to $20 a brick. If you need a little 22 or 9, I got it here:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/2177543/riverside-california-ammo-for-sale--22lr---9mm--i-e--area-

[dacolan]

The supply is out there. It's just not in the same places most of us are conditioned to look first.

[alvarezbar1]

I find it at my local walmart at least once a week, maybe not always a brick but some 22lr always shows up.

[Asphodel]

Sorry guys, but all your whining and ranting about those of us who turn ammo for a few bucks in profit just makes me laugh. You make is seem as if we are some evil venture-capitalists turning a 300% profit. I only profit about $10 to $20 a brick. If you need a little 22 or 9, I got it here:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/217754...mm--i-e--area-

Well, Richard, I hope you will have the opportunity to enjoy looking at those bricks of 22 on your shelf for many happy years to come.

I have a little bit different situation.......try a 'search' on 'second Saturday' on the Calguns search feature to read about my San Jose range event for young people, and newbies to shooting of any age.

To keep the event 'free' for the young folks and newbies, it has to be 'donation supported'.

I have the 'Chief Instructor' job with our Rifle Club, and get the range time donated, then I have to solicit donations of 22 rounds and volunteer time from experienced shooters who are willing to act as instructors and coaches on the line, so that every newbie has good personal basic safety/proficiency instruction.

The 22 rounds racketeering situation has been the 'headache from hell' in trying to keep the event supplied with enough 22, so that the young folks and newbies can do enough actual shooting for the event to be useful. This amounts to two bricks, more or less, for each event day.

We've been lucky so far.......a number of people have donated 22 rounds from their 'stash' to keep us going........and some people have donated a bit of $ to help us buy some when the prices go down again and the stuff is more readily available.

It should be rather easy to guess my opinion of this situation.

cheers

Carla

[MARX7]

Well, Richard, I hope you will have the opportunity to enjoy looking at those bricks of 22 on your shelf for many happy years to come.

I have a little bit different situation.......try a 'search' on 'second Saturday' on the Calguns search feature to read about my San Jose range event for young people, and newbies to shooting of any age.

To keep the event 'free' for the young folks and newbies, it has to be 'donation supported'.

I have the 'Chief Instructor' job with our Rifle Club, and get the range time donated, then I have to solicit donations of 22 rounds and volunteer time from experienced shooters who are willing to act as instructors and coaches on the line, so that every newbie has good personal basic safety/proficiency instruction.

The 22 rounds racketeering situation has been the 'headache from hell' in trying to keep the event supplied with enough 22, so that the young folks and newbies can do enough actual shooting for the event to be useful. This amounts to two bricks, more or less, for each event day.

We've been lucky so far.......a number of people have donated 22 rounds from their 'stash' to keep us going........and some people have donated a bit of $ to help us buy some when the prices go down again and the stuff is more readily available.

It should be rather easy to guess my opinion of this situation.

cheers

Carla

As a newbie myself I applaud your service ma'am.

I am in the bay area and wish I would of heard of this event.

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[ogarcia_02]

Sorry guys, but all your whining and ranting about those of us who turn ammo for a few bucks in profit just makes me laugh. You make is seem as if we are some evil venture-capitalists turning a 300% profit. I only profit about $10 to $20 a brick. If you need a little 22 or 9, I got it here:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/217754...mm--i-e--area-

I'd tell you where you can shove your overpriced ammo but I don't want to get banned so I'll let you use your imagination...

[bass_blaster]

Sorry guys, but all your whining and ranting about those of us who turn ammo for a few bucks in profit just makes me laugh. You make is seem as if we are some evil venture-capitalists turning a 300% profit. I only profit about $10 to $20 a brick. If you need a little 22 or 9, I got it here:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/217754...mm--i-e--area-

I feel bad for whoever is dumb enough to pay your prices for the 9mm. They must ride the short bus to the range. Easy to find for less than $20. If you can get that much for it then good for you. Salesman of the year.