Do Not Help The Enemy!!!

[sharxbyte]

I was just reading a thread pertaining to 2A and a bill involving rimfires, containing DEVASTATING information that we don't want in the hands of the enemy. They read our boards, and some probably even post undercover.

I don't know how many of you post exclusively in Rimfire, but in case you don't know, we in 2A have learned not to discuss potential outcomes of a bill, or potential work-arounds for said bill until it passes/fails. Too many times, a bill has been amended with sometimes even word-for-word additions to counter work arounds that were voiced on this forum.

Don't ask:

"Does this mean that...blah blah blah?"

"What if I ...blah blah blah"

etc.

You're writing their bills for them. If you REALLY need to know, then send a PM to a trustworthy member, or better yet, discuss it offline in private.

They're watching.

Thanks for taking the time to read my rant.

[220RR]

+ 1MILLION......there are on here getting all the info to make up stupid law....be careful what you post..

[Gutz]

This should be stickied. I agree with OP.

[noob_tube]

Agreed. Centerfire is horrible about this. Even OT shows a bit more discretion.

[sharxbyte]

Their goal is to disarm us. We know this. Giving them extra ammunition by being a giant innovative think-tank DOES NOT help us. If we are playing the long game, and behaving legally until it's impossible by any stretch to keep our property otherwise, and waiting to strike the laws down judicially, then it makes NO sense to constrict our ability to excercise our rights further for the time being.

I understand your symbolism, but the consequences aren't worth metaphorically sticking your tong out, or giving them the bird.

[pennys dad]

I was just reading a thread pertaining to 2A and a bill involving rimfires, containing DEVASTATING information that we don't want in the hands of the enemy. They read our boards, and some probably even post undercover.

I don't know how many of you post exclusively in Rimfire, but in case you don't know, we in 2A have learned not to discuss potential outcomes of a bill, or potential work-arounds for said bill until it passes/fails. Too many times, a bill has been amended with sometimes even word-for-word additions to counter work arounds that were voiced on this forum.

Don't ask:

"Does this mean that...blah blah blah?"

"What if I ...blah blah blah"

etc.

You're writing their bills for them. If you REALLY need to know, then send a PM to a trustworthy member, or better yet, discuss it offline in private.

They're watching.

Thanks for taking the time to read my rant.

You need to report those threads

[rm1911]

They don't care. Look for them gun control isn't a safety issue it's a control issue. And it's a cultural issue. Firearms and firearms owners represent a cultural identity with individualism and self-reliance. They don't care about us. It's the future generations. They want to de and Re program them. Once guns are demonized and pretty much are safe queens then its over. They have a long term strategy. If they don't get it this time they'll get it next. They don't care.

Were fooling ourselves if we think they cruise this site and and go "oh, we missed something". They don't care about the guns. They care about control. They know we'll find work arounds. Their war is against us. Our guns are just the means.

They're evil fascists. And the saddest part is they probably willingly accept that.

[epilepticninja]

What rabbit and 1911 said.

[Izzy43]

They don't care. Look for them gun control isn't a safety issue it's a control issue. And it's a cultural issue. Firearms and firearms owners represent a cultural identity with individualism and self-reliance. They don't care about us. It's the future generations. They want to de and Re program them. Once guns are demonized and pretty much are safe queens then its over. They have a long term strategy. If they don't get it this time they'll get it next. They don't care.

Were fooling ourselves if we think they cruise this site and and go "oh, we missed something". They don't care about the guns. They care about control. They know we'll find work arounds. Their war is against us. Our guns are just the means.

They're evil fascists. And the saddest part is they probably willingly accept that.

Well said and right to the point. Its about control, just like the Govies in New York that want to control how much soda you can have. Its not about the soda or obesity, its about control. The politicians shake and shudder when they can't have control.

I also agree with "mrrabbit", silencing gun owners is what the politicians want. If we don't voice our dissent then who will?

[mshill]

What rabbit and 1911 said.

Me too. These guys writing the laws aren't stupid, in fact they are pretty smart people, well versed in the law. While they may, or may not, have a depth of firearms knowledge they know exactly what they are doing. If they miss something with todays law they know they can pick it up next time. This is evidenced by their constant redefinition of the "assault weapon" in the PC.

Frankly, SB374 is brutally clear, making essentially all semi-auto rimfire rifles ''assault weapons". The goal is to have a gun free California in two generations. The worst thing we can do is be relegated to the shadows. They need to know there will be massive non-compliance and serious lawsuits if this becomes law.

[sharxbyte]

I'm not saying we shouldn't verbally fight. I'm saying we should not give them ammunition, be it "lets start a civil war", or "here's a work around we should try".


If you want to be able to actually use your work around, don't tell them about it.

[speedrrracer]

It seems as though too many Calgunners here don't understand and recognize Psychological warfare. More importantly, how to respond to it.

The Antis are using it wholesale - and when you react the way they want you - including self-censorship - they laugh to the bank.

They don't need us for ideas - the spend all day coming up with their own.

Bottom-line though is:

DON'T RESPOND THEY WAY THEY WANT YOU TO!!!

=8-)

It's not unreasonable to have the opinion you have, but history has proven you wrong. You can call BS if it pops your tarts, but it doesn't change history, it simply betrays your ignorance of recent history here in CA. Posts from this site have change the verbiage of bills here in CA to the detriment of you, me and all gun owners and pro-2A citizens. This is not some thing, if it were, I would agree with you 100%.

If I knew who you were IRL I would PM you the details, as it is, you come across as someone working hard for the antis.

OP is absolutely right, and poster who asked for a sticky is a wise man

[rogervzv]

I was just reading a thread pertaining to 2A and a bill involving rimfires, containing DEVASTATING information that we don't want in the hands of the enemy. They read our boards, and some probably even post undercover.

I see this all the time. If it is true then why don't we just delete all posts that deal with 2A and stay ignorant? What is the point of having a 2A discussion forum if you cannot discuss 2A issues?

[rogervzv]

Well said and right to the point. Its about control, just like the Govies in New York that want to control how much soda you can have. Its not about the soda or obesity, its about control. The politicians shake and shudder when they can't have control.

I also agree with "mrrabbit", silencing gun owners is what the politicians want. If we don't voice our dissent then who will?

Exactly right. The Democrats want us silent, cowed, obedient, and disarmed. Not necessarily in that order. We need to be loud and combative.

[Izzy43]

I'm not saying we shouldn't verbally fight. I'm saying we should not give them ammunition, be it "lets start a civil war", or "here's a work around we should try".


If you want to be able to actually use your work around, don't tell them about it.

Totally agree with this post. For heaven's sake no one should post or recommend a work around that would put anyone on the wrong side of the law, whether one likes the law or not.