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  • Caribouriver
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2010
    • 645

    MP 15-22 optic

    While it's in jail, I hope to pick up an optic. What do you recommend in the $75-$150 range. A fixed 3X Nikon 8496 is $150 where a fixed 4X NcStar is $65. Is variable power important for a .22 at 100 yds? NcStar 3-9x42 with 3 reticles is also $150. What is good value? I am sure this question has been asked before and I searched this forum but came up with nothing conclusive. I appreciate your help.
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    Intimid8tor
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2007
    • 6607

    I wouldn't scope it for 100 yards. I use a cheap red dot, probably a primary arms red dot if I had to guess. It's just a fun gun and since I have an aimpoint on my regular rifle, having a red dot makes sense.

    I wouldnt buy anything from ncstar, but that is me.
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    • #3
      Caribouriver
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Apr 2010
      • 645

      Roger that Intimid8tor. I have a red dot on a .223/5.56 and it is fantastic for rapid target acquisition. But having a 4MOA dot, it more than covers clay pigeons at 100 yds and almost covers the 5.5" bull on my Caldwell targets. I find the red dot fun and fast but not particularly precise. For the .22, I wanted something a tad more precise without going to a scope that was 12" or more long. Is Leaper, BSA or Simmons significantly better than NcStar at that price break?

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      • #4
        sholling
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        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2007
        • 10360

        I wouldn't put an NcStar on a slingshot. I prefer to buy a scope that's going to last a lifetime and for that rifle the two that I'd look at are the Weaver Classic 4x28 Rimfire or a V3 1-3x20.
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        • #5
          Peter.Steele
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2010
          • 7351

          Saw a Nikon 2-7 at Walmart the other day for $139 ...
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          • #6
            Caribouriver
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Apr 2010
            • 645

            Thanks. No NcStar for sure. Question: Seeing as how the MP 15-22 is a "tactical" rifle, doesn't a scope that is 12" long look inappropriately big? Wouldn't a scope that is about 8" long be proportionally more in keeping with the design of the rifle?

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            • #7
              glock 357
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1076

              Does this have a detachable carry handle or is fixed? Also consider how your cheek would rest with a scope + mount + ring height. A cheap red dot would be ideal for both indoor and outdoor. Doesn't have to be fancy should hold a decent zero with a 22lr.
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              • #8
                sholling
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                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2007
                • 10360

                Originally posted by Caribouriver
                Thanks. No NcStar for sure. Question: Seeing as how the MP 15-22 is a "tactical" rifle, doesn't a scope that is 12" long look inappropriately big? Wouldn't a scope that is about 8" long be proportionally more in keeping with the design of the rifle?
                The 11.3" long 1-4x24 Burris Tactical Xtreme that I have on my 6.8SPC looks a bit big but mainly because of the thickness of the 30mm scope and the LaRue mount. A slimmer-trimmer scope like a 10.3" long Weaver 4x28 would look good and 9" long Weaver V3 would look really good. The bonus of the V3 is its a centerfire scope and can be moved to 5.56 when you're ready. A quick-detach PEPR mount would be a nice addition. My only concern is the rear sight on my AR15-22 isn't foldable and that's another $50-100 for a folding rear sight.



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                • #9
                  joker70
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1208

                  I have a NC star 4x32 on my 22lr AR. The scope came with my other rifle but it's more fun and cheap to make soda cans dance at 100yds. If that is the most you'll be needing it for, then I don't think you can go wrong with a 4x32.

                  I like how it looks on my AR as well. I think long scopes and scope rings look more appropriate for bolt action or sporting rifles.
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                  • #10
                    Caribouriver
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 645

                    Thanks for the pictures and links Sholling.

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                    • #11
                      glock 357
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1076

                      Originally posted by sholling
                      That's a damn nice 22. I thought all the 22 ar styles had a handguard. That's pretty nice I can see why you'd go with a scope.
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                      • #12
                        Gatotsu77
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 262

                        @ glock 357 - I believe he said that is an AR chambered in 6.8 SPC. Nice weapon either way though..

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                        • #13
                          Caribouriver
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 645

                          The rifle is a M&P 15/22 MOE with flip up front and rear sights. Keeping the optic tab to $100 or less, I have narrowed it down to:
                          Nikon Prostaff Nikoplex 4x32, 12" long, $100
                          Leapers UTG 3-9x32 CGB bugbuster, 8" long, $80
                          NcStar, 4x32 STM432G sniper, 8" long, $86

                          Here's another question though: What about the existing MBUS flip up sights? Are they usable with an optic? Do I need a high mounts for the optic (1")? On a red dot, the MBUS flip up sights co- witness like a glowing red golfball on a tee. Can I do something similar with a 4x32 optic? Do I need special rings? Thanks everyone. Calguns has saved me a lot of time, money and aggravation when I venture into new gun territory - like now: optics!

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                          • #14
                            calif 15-22
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 5863

                            This is what I have now on my 15-22. Nikon P-22. Great quality and fairly reasonable.

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                            • #15
                              wjc
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                              • Dec 2009
                              • 10872

                              I picked up a Leupold VX-II Rimfire EFR 3-9X33mm scope with Adjustable Objective for mine. (I'm ambitious!)

                              I've got it at the Leupold Custom shop right now having the M1 dials installed.

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