Calling all Phoenix HP22a owners

[dr_communist]

I don't see any firing pin block on mine. It just sits there free floating. I have dry fired my HP22A so many times just fooling around with the slide rack after I opened it up and modded the internals to get rid of the stupid California safeties that came with the pistol which rendered the gun practically worthless.

Anyway, I don't concern myself with the cost of the firing pin because a) the gun is so affordable anyway, I got mine with 2 barrels for like 150 bucks and b) Phoenix Arms will gladly repair or replace your pistol for free for life!

I love mine. Never a FTF or FTE in the last 750 rounds with a mix of ammo. Like I said, it was the infernal safeties that turn off most people on this pistol but once you defeat them, the pistol acts and behaves like any other SA pistol.

i just got my hp-22a for xmas, except m,ine is black. i would like to know how to disable some of those crappy safeties, can anybody give me a link or at least instructions on how to do it?

[bigcasino]

I got mine new in 1998 great little gun I havve put a few thousand rds thru it with very little problems only thing I found is it dont like sub sonic ammo but other than that it igreat. I just found a youtube video a ffew months ago and learned how to fix the safties now I love it even more. I do wish the slide locked back but it dont so I almost always dry fire the last round never been a problem yet. I am not worried about it because I think I got my $80 out of it by now. LOL

[Esquire]

Phoenix Arms is a great company. They really stand behind their product and warranty. I miss my HP22 which I sold to finance something else. Honestly, I preferred Phoenix over the much more expensive Walther. Among 22lr handguns, Phoenix, Ruger 22/45, and Browning Buckmark should be on top of the list. My only complaint, like most others, is TOO MANY safeties!!!

[Ledbetter]

Go here for more info and for info on disabling the "safety" mechanisms:

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=28da8d60d989f0ca5834b53568d62a02

The danger to your gun from dry-firing is peening the chamber as mentioned above. You can put an expended cartridge in to prevent this and dry-fire until the empty cartridge needs replacing. The worst case scenario from a peended chamber is a case blow-out in the area peened away by the firing pin during dry-firing.

[Eddie1965]

To the OP, if you are really worried about dry firing your Phoenix, get some Aguila ammo, the one that is primer fired (no powder), and just load the first round in your mags with one of these. The round will fire but it will not cycle the action. There's a video on you tube of a guy doing this.

[mnh327]

Thanks, I saw that video, and that's what got me thinking..

Is it possible that the design is so flawed, as to do something harmful to the gun with every mag?

Those Aquila rounds are not cheap, and should not be necessary.

To the OP, if you are really worried about dry firing your Phoenix, get some Aguila ammo, the one that is primer fired (no powder), and just load the first round in your mags with one of these. The round will fire but it will not cycle the action. There's a video on you tube of a guy doing this.

[ivanimal]

http://www.azoomsnapcaps.com/training-rounds.php

[mnh327]

Just doesn't seem that this would be the answer.

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[joeyant]

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WTF kind of retard doesn't check the chamber before setting the gun down after firing?
Unless I'm doing some rapid fire/drills I usually count my rounds down range so I don't drop the hammer on an empty chamber.

Because rimfire guns have an offset firing pin, the FP will strike the edge of the chamber when empty. It will start to peen the chamber and cause a burr to form. I've got a 60+ year old High Standard that clearly shows this happening. There are tools out there to ream or swage the chamber out to eliminate this, but I haven't found this necessary on any of my firearms. Theoretically dry firing may also damage the firing pin, but I've never seen it happen. If it does, Phoenix will take care of it.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. By the time something like that might happen, you'll have received your money's worth from the gun 10 fold.

Dude, I always check the chamber before setting it down after firing. If you don't believe me, check the picture of my HP22A above. Since the HP22 does not have a bolt open feature after the last round is fired, I do it manually after ejecting the magazine. Doing so was not possible with all the California redundant safeties inherent in the gun, which in my opinion actually rendered the pistol more unsafe because it did not behave like a normal automatic pistol.

[joeyant]

zoom snap caps are not for dry firing

http://www.azoomsnapcaps.com/training-rounds.php

These blue snap caps were designed to teach loading and unloading but they did not recommend actually firing on them, especially on a rimfire pistol where the pin hits the edge of the snap cap instead of the center again and again.

I bought these snap caps to teach my wife how to load/unload her Airlite 22LR revolver.

[mnh327]

I agree, this gun, as delivered, is like 'WTF??' were they thinking? It doesn't operate like anything else, and is actually unsafe. Luckily there is a quick fix. See youtube for the quick mod. Haven't done it yet myself, figured I should try it first.

I do it manually after ejecting the magazine. Doing so was not possible with all the California redundant safeties inherent in the gun, which in my opinion actually rendered the pistol more unsafe because it did not behave like a normal automatic pistol.

[ivanimal]

http://www.pachmayr.com/plastic-caps.php

Ideal for training, working firearm action and dry firing.

Snap Caps allow safe dry firing while protecting firing pin, sear and trigger. Excellent for firearms safety and storage. Dry Fire Dummy Rounds are made of tough plastic exterior with solid brass base.

They make them for th 22 as well

http://images1.opticsplanet.com/180-180-ffffff/opplanet-pachmayr-22-rimfire-snap-caps-03200.png

[IrishPirate]

my HP22A holds open after the last round.......

[mnh327]

I mean, it's supposed to, right?

But from what I've read here and seen in videos, it does not.

Maybe yours is a unique specimen? Haven't tried mine, but I'll update when I do.

my HP22A holds open after the last round.......

[elee62652]

to my knowledge

i believe that the hp22 was not designed to hold open on the last shot. but its possible that your gun has had a hold open kit installed. just read about that being available a few days ago. lol... but dont ask me where...

im in the search right now for a new hp22, actually 2, one for me and one for my little lady. (she is a little afraid of guns, but does well with 22's. i have severe arthritis so really dont want bigger right now.) its been about 40 years or a little more since i have fired a gun of any kind. (gave 'em up for the first wife, geesh what a mess that turned out to be! lol...) but with the sad state of affairs of the world these days, and who knows what our country will be like by the end of this next administration, i figured its about time to get back into firearms and getting a concealed carry permit. (i live in Ohio btw) i do like the hp22, i recently held one and it fit well and looked great. the owner said he's put about 2,000 rds of bulk federal thru it without one hiccup, except for a few times he didnt have the mag seated all the way. just thought i would drop by and say hello!