Calling all Phoenix HP22a owners

[wolfy]

I feel like a dummy but I can't recall what my 22a does
On the last shot. I probably only have 60 rounds that I put through it.

[drifter2be]

I remember reading about a kit, I think it was a replacement follower for the magazines, that acts like a last round hold open. I remember them being pricey for what they were, something like $14 a piece. I guess if you really care about not damaging a $130 gun that much, especially when it has a lifetime warranty, it might be worth the investment. You could always experiment and find a subsonic load that won't cycle and load that as the last round in each magazine, so you won't be able to dry fire it(since the gun has a SA only trigger if the slide doesn't cycle it won't reset the hammer, so you won't be able to dry fire it).

My GF has one of these guns, she likes it, but isn't crazy about it, she hates the fact that there is no last round hold open and she thinks its kind of sad that she was able to be more accurate with my XD9SC at 15 yards than she is with her HP22. We are going to order the 5" barrel kit for it to see what kind of improvement we can get out of it, but more than likely if it doesn't make it any better it will be showing up in the market place very soon.

[Rafale]

my HP22A holds open after the last round.......

weird, mine doesn't.

[Rafale]

Are CCI Mini Mags ok to use in the hp22a?

Used them many times before, no issues.

[JAGACIDA]

i believe that the hp22 was not designed to hold open on the last shot. but its possible that your gun has had a hold open kit installed. just read about that being available a few days ago. lol... but dont ask me where...

im in the search right now for a new hp22, actually 2, one for me and one for my little lady. (she is a little afraid of guns, but does well with 22's. i have severe arthritis so really dont want bigger right now.) its been about 40 years or a little more since i have fired a gun of any kind. (gave 'em up for the first wife, geesh what a mess that turned out to be! lol...) but with the sad state of affairs of the world these days, and who knows what our country will be like by the end of this next administration, i figured its about time to get back into firearms and getting a concealed carry permit. (i live in Ohio btw) i do like the hp22, i recently held one and it fit well and looked great. the owner said he's put about 2,000 rds of bulk federal thru it without one hiccup, except for a few times he didnt have the mag seated all the way. just thought i would drop by and say hello!

Howdy to you in OH. Great way to jump in, glad to hear from you.

[gemini1]

Anybody knows where to find one in NorCal/bay area?

[HighWildFree]

I would agree with the idea to use Aguila Super Quiet Colibri's, they dont contain powder only fired by the primer. They make a really funny noise, letting you know that you have fired the last shot.

They do not come with a last round bolt hold open.

Advice for HP22a owners DO NOT fire high velocity ammo. I have read in reviews that it is fine to use, just dont use super velocity. THIS IS NOT TRUE. I put 750 rounds through mine all high velocity, hammer ended up breaking.

Luckily I took it to the factory (in ontario), and they gave me a new one, plus two free mags.

Also to get around the safeties. You can do it with no mods. Just remove the mag, Put it back in until it stops, about halfway in, and then you can move the safety freely, allowing you to rack the slide with no mag.

[chiz]

Imade this video years ago showing how to remove the magazine disconnect

[Ezzieq]

I remember reading about a kit, I think it was a replacement follower for the magazines, that acts like a last round hold open. I remember them being pricey for what they were, something like $14 a piece. I guess if you really care about not damaging a $130 gun that much, especially when it has a lifetime warranty, it might be worth the investment. You could always experiment and find a subsonic load that won't cycle and load that as the last round in each magazine, so you won't be able to dry fire it(since the gun has a SA only trigger if the slide doesn't cycle it won't reset the hammer, so you won't be able to dry fire it).

My GF has one of these guns, she likes it, but isn't crazy about it, she hates the fact that there is no last round hold open and she thinks its kind of sad that she was able to be more accurate with my XD9SC at 15 yards than she is with her HP22. We are going to order the 5" barrel kit for it to see what kind of improvement we can get out of it, but more than likely if it doesn't make it any better it will be showing up in the market place very soon.

A STOCK hp22a will not hold open.

There are Last Round Hold Open Kits available, two different ones, but they are special order. As far as I can tell only 1 company makes them. They sell them on ebay. Sellers name is topstar76. If you contact him personally he will send a link to order without having to do the ebay bid.

One is a Magazine Follower Replacement Kit which allows you to keep 10 rnd capacity. Runs about $20 + shipping per magazine, or you can bid on ebay and get it cheaper maybe.

Second is a insert in the magazine that has similar size a 22 round which stays in the magazine and takes up the room of one round. This reduces your capacity to 9 rnds. Runs about $8.50 + shipping or try bidding.

I just bought a few of the second kind, haven't tried them out yet, should get them this week. I will update with what I think.

[Playeryum]

Not sure if Phoenix still has these available, but I hope so:

http://phoenixparts.mypressonline.com/hp22aloc.html

Im picking my HP 22a up in a week so I'd like to figure this out as well, or I'll hopefully remember to get some snap caps.

[Delfuego]

I take back this review of the hp22a because while cleaning it today I discovered that the frame cracked! Maybe it is not a good idea to buy this gun at any price. I do not recommend this gun anymore. I'll post pictures later tonight.


See this new thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...29#post8942029

Original Post:
I am on my second hp22a. The frame at the top of the magazine well developed a crack and eventually turned into a hole about a 1/4 inch wide. It would still fire fine after that. What caused it was firing over 5,000 rounds of high/super velocity ammo through it. Too be honest with you, I didn't know that there was a difference. That said, Phoenix replaced it under warranty. This time I have only used standard velocity ammo and shot about 2,000 rounds through the new gun since May without one FTF, FTE, or stove pipe. Talk about reliable.

I did modify the safety and the magazine release. Plus, I use the brass slug that keeps the slide open after firing the last round. I have seven magazines and they all have the brass slug. It really works well. The nice thing too is that all of these changes are reversable. I bought the safety, brass slug, and magazine release tab from topstar76. Contact topstar76 directly to get a deal on shipping.

I really enjoy firing this gun and I swap out the short and long barrels at the range all the time. I use the short barrel at 25 yards and the long one for targets at 50 and 75 yards. People are always amazed that I do that in a couple of seconds. I think all guns should have this ability.

So, I highly recommend this gun with the previously mentioned modifications and the use of standard velocity. 22lr ammo. By the way, I am in no way affiliated with Phoenix-Arms.

[Delfuego]

Not sure if Phoenix still has these available, but I hope so:

http://phoenixparts.mypressonline.com/hp22aloc.html

Im picking my HP 22a up in a week so I'd like to figure this out as well, or I'll hopefully remember to get some snap caps.

That link is not a Phoenix Arms link. That is Topstar76's link.,

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