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I have buddy also thinking of doing the same thing... I would also like to know opinions about .22 uppers.
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I will third this. I have also been thinking of getting a dedicated 22LR Ar style so any recommendations would be nice.Comment
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I guess it depends what you are going to use the 22 upper for.
I don't have any experience with "plinkers" but if you want the ultimate accuracy out of the 22 AR upper, go with Compass Lake Engineering.
Frank White is well known AR-15 community and he is considered one of the best AR-15 guys out there.
It will cost you more than $1K and the wait can be fairly long.
I don't think you can find any more accurate 22LR upper for AR-15.
But, a lot of service rifle competitor and long range shooters use Compass Lake Engineering's 22 upper for their practice.Comment
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"Accurate 22s" are like pretty girls from Arkansas, I've always heard about them but have never seen one for myself.
Seriously, if I can hit a soda can at 30 yards I'm pretty happy with any .22lr rifle.
I have a Spikes ST-22 that I like, but what I love is Spike's support and customer service. The one I got had a flaw in the barrel. I sent it back and had a brand new upper in about a week.
It's far more accurate than my stock 10/22 and has been a great rifle to have as I've watched .223 prices climb."There's no reason what so ever that a private citizen needs to own a firearm. Just ask the Armenians, Jews, Cambodians, Tutsis (Rwanda), Bosnian Muslims, etc."
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I'd love to recommend Spike's since that is what I use, but their Nickel bolt is really hit or miss. I've seen more jammed Spikes with the Nickel bolts than I have working Spikes uppers. If you come across the pre-nickel bolt uppers, snag it.
TacSol is a good solution currently.Comment
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I have had maybe 10 FTE and 1 FTF with my Spikes out of about 1000 rounds fired. Whatever teething issues they had with the early models they must have fixed in the newer ones. I love my Spikes and can say enough good things about .... in fact my only complaint is now I go thru a ton of 22 ammo because its so much fun.John P. Hermesmeyer
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Having shot Black Majik's Spike's D22U, and having lined up against him and said Spike's in a 100 yd. game of HORSE, I can say with certainty that the Spike's D22U is freakin' accurate. IIRC, he did have some issue w/ a broken firing pin, but I'm assuming most D22Us will have issues of that sort.
I just bought a TacSol M4 upper, and it, too, is a great quality upper. When I ordered the un-notched hammer from them, I went ahead and ordered their little D22U emergency kit (c-clips, springs, and firing pin) as well.
I foresee epic Spike's vs. TacSol AR-22 battles over at ASR's silhouette range in the near future....
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I'd be interested to see how this shakes out.
Having shot Black Majik's Spike's D22U, and having lined up against him and said Spike's in a 100 yd. game of HORSE, I can say with certainty that the Spike's D22U is freakin' accurate. IIRC, he did have some issue w/ a broken firing pin, but I'm assuming most D22Us will have issues of that sort.
I just bought a TacSol M4 upper, and it, too, is a great quality upper. When I ordered the un-notched hammer from them, I went ahead and ordered their little D22U emergency kit (c-clips, springs, and firing pin) as well.
I foresee epic Spike's vs. TacSol AR-22 battles over at ASR's silhouette range in the near future....
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I've got experience with Model1 sales, Spikes, and TacSol.
I've owned a M1S and currently own a TacSol.
Spikes like has already been said, can be very hit or miss.
With any dedicated 22 upper (or conversion kit) you want to make sure you have the rounded hammer. Also, it's good to invest in a set of the JP reduced power springs (a whopping 18$ after shipping). With this combo a TacSol or M1S will shoot reliably without cleaning for at least 1000 rounds
There are just too many issues with having to "tune" Spikes uppers, while the M1S's and TacSol's just run out of the box.
If you're on a budget: Go M1S. They're great and reliable. You can also get bull barrels, 20" barrels, etc. Lots of variety and inexpensive with M1S. Their system is based on the tried and true Ciener system and is the same as CMMG's. The Spikes is loosely based on this system.
If you want the nicest: TacSol. They only have two options, the LT (lightweight) and the M4. If you want tactical, get the M4. If you want to build a space gun, get the LT. Both have threaded 1/2x28 barrelsPlease read the Calguns Wiki
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This Sunday, Bring your A-game.Having shot Black Majik's Spike's D22U, and having lined up against him and said Spike's in a 100 yd. game of HORSE, I can say with certainty that the Spike's D22U is freakin' accurate. IIRC, he did have some issue w/ a broken firing pin, but I'm assuming most D22Us will have issues of that sort.
I just bought a TacSol M4 upper, and it, too, is a great quality upper. When I ordered the un-notched hammer from them, I went ahead and ordered their little D22U emergency kit (c-clips, springs, and firing pin) as well.
I foresee epic Spike's vs. TacSol AR-22 battles over at ASR's silhouette range in the near future....
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