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Spikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CHS]

Would you guys recommend Compass Lake or Spikes with a Lothar Walther barrel upgrade for best accuracy, and reliability?

If you've got the money for Compass Lake, go Compass Lake. Period.

But I didn't have $1000 for a .22lr upper, I only had $600, so I went with the TacSol

[2new]

Would you guys recommend Compass Lake or Spikes with a Lothar Walther barrel upgrade for best accuracy, and reliability?

[Bigballaizm]

Federal bulk ammo. These things are plenty accurate. If we went w/ magnified optics, our game of HORSE would resemble the Jordan-Bird commercials.

Classic commercial!!

[CHS]

Any opinions on the velocityfirearms.com uppers? Cheapest I've found, which makes me wary...

If I can hit a soda can at 50 or 60 yards, most of the time, I'll be plenty happy. I don't need a match .22, that's what my sweet li'l honey of a Ruger is for. I just want something I can plunk around with, without it jamming up too much or breaking on me, and something "cool looking" I can let kids and chicks at the range play with.

I looked into these and was seriously going to buy one for a while until I learned more about the company.

Basically, velocity firearms is the same company as hesse/vulcan/blackthorne and is one to stay away from.

If you're on a budget I highly recommend the Model1 Sales dedicated uppers. They are nice and reliable, mil-spec, and use nice aluminum receivers

[Spyder]

Any opinions on the velocityfirearms.com uppers? Cheapest I've found, which makes me wary...

If I can hit a soda can at 50 or 60 yards, most of the time, I'll be plenty happy. I don't need a match .22, that's what my sweet li'l honey of a Ruger is for. I just want something I can plunk around with, without it jamming up too much or breaking on me, and something "cool looking" I can let kids and chicks at the range play with.

[CHS]

Supposing I go TacSol and replace the trigger, would the rounded trigger work just as well if I switch back to .223/5.56?

Ok, the original notched hammer was a thing done by Colt to make it harder for people to modify their semi-auto AR's into going fully-auto.

A true M16 hammer has a rounded face, and an AR15 with a rounded hammer is closer to "mil spec" than one with a notched hammer.

The rounded hammer is actually the ideal hammer for all situations, and works better for a 9mm conversion as well.

[vega]

Supposing I go TacSol and replace the trigger, would the rounded trigger work just as well if I switch back to .223/5.56?

I would go with the Spikes Tactical...

Explanation would be great.

[BamBam-31]

If you're trying to decide whether to buy one or not, I'd say do it. It's pricey for sure, but you're really getting a quality product. Again, we were hitting 4" swingers at 100 yds. w/ red dots (Rich was using an Aimpoint, I was using a Clonepoint) and Federal bulk ammo. These things are plenty accurate. If we went w/ magnified optics, our game of HORSE would resemble the Jordan-Bird commercials.

[Bigballaizm]

Keep the updates comming please.....

[BamBam-31]

Spikes vs. TacSol, Round One: Tie.

Rich was kicking my butt every which way til I finally figured out the proper hold for that damned 100 yd. chicken. Then I tied the score H-O-R to H-O-R right before the final line break. We probably could have gone at it for another half an hour w/o someone prevailing.

(I had another three FTF's using the notched RRA hammer. The TacSol rounded hammer didn't arrive in time for Round One. Should be here by Round Two. IIRC, the Spikes ran 100%.)

Bottom line: Both rifles are scary accurate if the shooter does his part. We were hitting 4" swingers at 100 yds. w/ relative ease.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

I had a Spike's upper. It FTF'd badly, had to send it back to Spike's so Tom could fix it. When returned, it worked perfectly with Federal bulk, but not so well on anything else. Spike's customer service is outstanding.

Tried a Ciener conversion in a DPMS 16" heavy barreled upper. It wasn't quite as accurate as the Spike's (2 1/2" @ 50 yards vs. 2" for the Spike's), but still held 4-5" groups at 100 yards with an inexpensive Bushnell Banner scope. It works well with Fed Bulk, Remington Golden Bullets, CCI and Winchester Bulk.

Kept the Ciener/DPMS, sold the Spike's. The adapted upper's accuracy is good enough for use as an inexpensive trainer and it allows me to reinstall the 5.56 bolt carrier group if needed. If I were interested in maximum accuracy, I would have kept the Spike's and lived with its ammo pickiness.

[Bigballaizm]

http://www.pkfirearms.com/content/1/20/102/140
Check out the tactical solutions uppers. Made specifically for a .22 and nothing else. 1:16 twist correct for most .22lr rounds, and heard nothing but good things about them.

Sweet! Thanx Bdillo!

[Dragon]

With Model 1 uppers do you have to change the hammer or notched hammer will work reliably?

I used a standard trigger group on mine but i cut down the back of the hammer to lightin it up not sure if it helped any thing but it functions very well!

[dchang0]

I'm still lovin' my Spike's with the Lothar Walther barrel. Very accurate--sub-MOA with the higher-end Eley, SK Standard Plus, and Wolf Extra Match ammo. This rifle gets shot more than all my others put together, and I definitely shoot my 5.56ers. MidwayUSA is loving me for all the match-grade .22LR ammo I buy.

A word of caution: my particular Spike's absolutely won't feed CCI Mini Mags or Remington Golden Bullets. They get jammed during the feeding process on every round. And considering that Federal bulk pack, which is highly-recommended for Spike's, is scarce as hens' teeth, you might want to get a M1S or TacSol instead.

For hyper-accurate stuff, consider Compass Lake Engineering.