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  • #16
    Rem222
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1332

    Another vote for the AR7 Henry survival. Once I found the ammo it liked (CCI mini-mags and Remington Cyclones) it's been great. The only problem with it though is it's my grandsons favorite and he's running through all my ammo...

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    • #17
      jamesob
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 4821

      well first of all you will need some lead free ammo to shoot the bunnys and other game with. second how much **** do you plan on taking with you?

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      • #18
        Seesm
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2008
        • 7812

        I want Kel-Tec to make a super light .22

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        • #19
          djleisure
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 4734

          I love my Feather AT-22 w/ pre-ban 20 rounders. Only 3 lbs. and breaks down into a very hand carrying case. Also seems to eat anything I feed it...

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          • #20
            cudakidd
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 3298

            Henry mini-bolt is my truck gun, light, very accurate, great fiber optic sights, stainless steel, bolt action feeds anything, and you make it into a take down gun simply by removing the stock using a dime! Mine is stored in a Papoose case.

            In a SHTF Walter Mitty scenario I plan to sit home since I can't imagine a scenario that would make me leave in a hurry, and if I do (chemical attack, etc) I have a bug-out pack and firearms for two legged predators. But having said that I don't plan to leave...

            I had friends and relatives that were at the heart of both the LA riots and Northridge quakes. The disruption was about three days in each case. Shelter in place was the reality since the roads were undrivable, the parks were full of displaced people (largely illegals waiting for handouts). My buddy worked for an alarm company, he of course got plenty of calls during the riots and drove with a police scanner and a 45 in his lap. And that was just to get home from work!

            My sister was about three blocks from the epicenter of the quake. Her three story building became a two story. Her car was the first story. She slept in the wreckage for three days, avoiding the parks due to the description above and she was a young single mother all alone...

            The SHTF scenarios always talked about conveniently forget to mention the gallon of water per day, per person, you need to lug around with you...ammo, guns, are secondary when you get really thirsty!!

            But I guess it's fun for Keyboard commandos to speculate...heck I do it...just plan not to really need to!
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            • #21
              maxicon
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4661

              For a scenario where you'd actually be carrying stuff around, as opposed to working out of your home or a well-stocked-in-advance camp, I'd second the MkII/Buckmark idea.

              AR7's good as far as weight goes and OK for size, but reliability bites, and they're not very sturdy.

              Anything else is just too big to be hauling around, assuming you also would be carrying weapons for Serious Business.
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              • #22
                Caseless
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2005
                • 1668

                I vote for the Marlin Papoose in stainless steel. It weighs in at 3.2lbs and you can carry lots of 7 round mags for it.
                +1. 10 round mags are widely available. Trigger on the Marlin 70PSS is much much smoother than my AR-7.

                I want Kel-Tec to make a super light .22
                You mean this one?


                Too bad the CA Handgun roster never allowed the Savage Striker series. http://www.gunshopfinder.com/savage/savage501fsport.asp
                Accuracy at 100 yds is reportedly on par with a rifle.

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                • #23
                  Sheepdog1968
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1889

                  There was a tv series on Discovery chanel called "Out of the Wild: The Alaska Experience" They had a combo single shot w 22 LR and 410 shotgun. They shot/caught lots of food with it. I was amazed at how useful it was. It was a group of five or so (started larger and shrank smaller as people gave up) and they had to carry everything they needed. For quite a few trips they had a center fire rifle they brought it along. They never did find catch anything with this heavy centerfire rifle and finally left it.

                  I suppose if I couldn't stay in place or drive and had to hoof it, I'd probably go with the combo and a side-arm pistol and skip a real rifle all-together. If I had a buddy with me to share some of the weight, then we'd likely take a real rifle or a shotgun.

                  From a distance, no one is likely going to know what you have and even the combo single shot will look like a cannon.

                  My two cents from a city boy who would likely end up sleeping in a patch of poison oak.
                  RIP Louis Awerbuck. I miss you and your training.

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                  • #24
                    fw10ring
                    Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 131

                    For me it's the CZ 452 Scout. It's what I bought to train the boys, and it's very accurate and 10 round mags are available.
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                    • #25
                      Nemia
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 97

                      Originally posted by Blademan21
                      I vote for the Marlin Papoose in stainless steel. It weighs in at 3.2lbs and you can carry lots of 7 round mags for it.
                      +1 love mine!
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                      • #26
                        rimfire17
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 79

                        Originally posted by Mister BLASTEE
                        What about a 10/22 with a folding stock & preban mags?
                        I think the 22 with the folding stock would be nice, but I've never had good luck with any of the non-Ruger magazines. The Eagles are tolerable, but nothing beats the reliability of the original 10 round magazine.
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                        • #27
                          sausage450r
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 232

                          I think if i could bring any of my .22's into the wilderness it would be my Marlin .22 lever action. its a little tack driver (factory sights), lightweight, came stock with a sling, good capacity on this one

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                          • #28
                            cali-man
                            Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 330

                            I would take my S&W 41. That may be a litte on the heavy side but it sure is accurate.

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                            • #29
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44094

                              I would NEVER trust my POS AR7 unless, it was the only .22lr I could find. My M6 is a little heavy but, having a .410 makes it a possibility. My GSG5 just hasn't proven that it'll last for 50,000 rounds yet so, it's out. My WASR22 is too big and bulky. My 10-22 w/BC folding stock and optics would work but, I'd probably grab one of my gallery guns instead. I really like the compactness, durability, reliability, weight of my Win. '06es. They are guns that have already proven the test of time and I've taken all types of game with them including deer. Yea, I know but, the statute of limitations ran out before half the members here where born.
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                              • #30
                                Spirit 1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 591

                                Having spent quite a bit of time in situations similar to the survival scenarios I have a different view. You want the most bang for the pound. You want universal calibers that work on widest variety of animals. You want acceptable accuracy & ability to defend yourself against virtually anything.

                                Seems to me it's hard to beat a long barreled .22 semi-auto pistol teamed with a HD style 8-9 shot shotgun. Add a very good quality full tang hunting knife & stout lightweight multi-tool, the largest camelback water carrier & a fire starter you know how to use in any weather & a compass.

                                You can add sidesaddles to the shotgun to carry up to 18 rounds plus 8 in the mag & there's bandoliers & belts to carry 25 & 25 more. The shotgun can take anything from small birds/critters to grizzlies depending on ammo. Your .22 pistol can take anything from small birds/critters to deer or more, with a good shot. The powder from a .22 shell can start 3 or 4 fires.

                                These guns mean you start living a 100 yard life but with stands, cover etc. there's a whole bunch of game to be had. In survival situations there's no harm in trying the 200 yard slug gun shots either. I'd think these 2 cover all bases with minimum weight & complication & could be carried 24/7 in any terrain or conditions & they're entirely legal.

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