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  • Citadelgrad87
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    • Mar 2007
    • 16964

    10/22 trigger groups-Kidd now with range report 43, photos post 44

    I upgraded an early 1980s vintage 10/22 with a green mountain barrel and a hogue overmold stock. I played with shims, but want a better trigger.

    The volq was the only option when I last looked, now there are a handful. I see Kidd is highly recommended.

    Right now, volqs are on sale at midway and kidds are on sale at Kidd. Close enough that they are the same.

    I don't see many direct comparison. I'm looking at the Kidd single stage, by the way.

    Looking for excellent trigger and maintaining excellent reliability.

    Any reason to add a Kidd bolt?

    Thanks.
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    Merc1138
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    • Feb 2009
    • 19742

    It's not really the Kidd single stage that people rave about. It's definitely good, I'd say as good as the volquartsen. But in either case if you're buying the whole thing(including the housing) even at $200 they're kind of "meh" and it only makes sense if you're building from scratch(in other words, you don't have a trigger housing and mag catch already). Honestly, I'd just go with the Kidd trigger upgrade.

    Is there any reason you aren't considering the kidd 2 stage(yes, I know it costs more)?

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    • #3
      Citadelgrad87
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      • Mar 2007
      • 16964

      No real reason. I just saw the single stage are on sale.
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      • #4
        manini
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 790

        Check out Brimstone Gunsmithing. www.brimstonegunsmithing.com You send them your trigger group and they work on it. Three levels available depending on how much you want done. Fast turnaround. Not sure if they can work on older trigger groups. Call if you are interested as they are very responsive.

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        • #5
          sholling
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          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2007
          • 10360

          I haven't tried Tony Kidd's single stage trigger kit yet, but his two-stage trigger is in my opinion perfection! The two-stage design allows a wee bit lower than normally prudent trigger pull while maintaining a margin of safety, and provides a super crisp break. That does not mean go nuts with crazy low trigger pull weights but it gives you some great options if you want a competition level rifle.

          Volquartsen's (VQ) complete trigger group is much crisper than their mushy but better than stock $50 DIY trigger-job-in-a-box kits, but IMO not nearly in the same league as a Kidd two-stage. The VQ trigger group is a nice safe (2-1/4 to 2-1/2lb) and very crisp solution for plinker or small game hunting rifle. I also found Clark Custom's ~$75 trigger job to come pretty close to the feel of a VQ complete trigger group but YMMV.
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          • #6
            reload4fun
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 168

            I have had Brimestone do a few triggers for me and their work is great.
            I put a Kidd 2 stage on my Magnum Research 22wmr. It's 8oz. crisp and I think about as good as it gets for a production rifle. Haven't tried a Volquartsen's yet but any of the 3 and you'll be happy. Just decide where you are going to use it before getting too light of a trigger pull.

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            • #7
              Citadelgrad87
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              • Mar 2007
              • 16964

              Originally posted by reload4fun
              I have had Brimestone do a few triggers for me and their work is great.
              I put a Kidd 2 stage on my Magnum Research 22wmr. It's 8oz. crisp and I think about as good as it gets for a production rifle. Haven't tried a Volquartsen's yet but any of the 3 and you'll be happy. Just decide where you are going to use it before getting too light of a trigger pull.
              Just paper punching. It has a regular bull barrel, so it's way heavy and way front heavy for carrying.

              Paper punching off the bench, letting my daughter shoot it. Maybe dusting aspirin at 50 yards.

              Just taking it to the next level.

              Would the 1 lb trigger split at 8 and 8 be suitable for this? I have an SR9TC with a psg1 trigger thst is very light, but it's a bench gun, too, and I never had any issue with thinking it was dangerously light.
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              • #8
                reload4fun
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 168

                If you are shooting off a bench, I say go as light a trigger as you can. I have a Falcon with a 2oz trigger, everytime I take it out first few shoots are off due too my fingers getting back to the feel, but after that, fly's are no longer safe on my targets. good luck.

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                • #9
                  duckman1
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3757

                  I have the Kidd single stage, I purchased the kit not the drop in and it works well. Installation took about 30 minutes including the handle and new charging bar. I love the way it shoots and I'm now considering sending off the barrel to have it counter bored or a recessed crown cut and the bolt worked.

                  Side note I ordered online from Kidd on a Monday and the parts arrived Friday regular shipping.

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                  • #10
                    FiremanBob
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 77

                    The Kidd single-stage is definitely a nicer pull. It's crisper with less creep. To me what makes the Kidd the clear leader is the adjustable pull weight. So if you want to shoot CMP Rimfire Sporter, which requires a weight of at least 3 lbs, and also NRA Silhouette, you only need to twist the adjuster a little.
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                    • #11
                      johnyreb
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1105

                      I have both Kidds single and double stage trigger sets. The single stage is on my daughters 10/22 and the double is on mine.

                      I prefer her single stage. The 2 stage is great, and works great, but after shooting both a lot I prefer the single. No real reason why, it just "feels" better to me.

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                      • #12
                        sholling
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 10360

                        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                        Would the 1 lb trigger split at 8 and 8 be suitable for this?
                        I have a purely benchrest 10/22 with a Kidd two-stage trigger setup that way and it's pretty darned awesome. IMO it's a bit too light to use safely as a carry-around plinker but it's great for the bench.
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                        • #13
                          Citadelgrad87
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16964

                          Originally posted by sholling
                          I have a purely benchrest 10/22 with a Kidd two-stage trigger setup that way and it's pretty darned awesome. IMO it's a bit too light to use safely as a carry-around plinker but it's great for the bench.
                          This is my rifle, there are many exactly like it, but this one is mine.



                          I never carry it, it's relegated to bench duty.

                          I guess 8 and 8 will do me fine.

                          Anyone have a Kidd bolt? Thoughts on that?
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                          • #14
                            afrancke
                            Member
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 147

                            The Kidd two-stage trigger is perfection and trivial to install. I have a 1lb/1lb version and it's feather-light - honestly an 8/8 trigger is unlikely to make it significantly easier to shoot more accurately.

                            The bolt is nice, and no complaints. I also got the buffer, pin kit, cocking assembly and mag release lever, essentially gutting factory receiver of everything. It all feels nice and solid, though whether there is any improved function from these other parts I couldn't say, since I tossed all the rest of the factory stuff out on day one.

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                            • #15
                              Pardini
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 1204

                              The Kidd single stage with the metal housing is far better than the Volquartson in my other gun. If you want a lighter pull go for the Kidd two stage. Personally, I don't know what you would really gain buy replacing the bolt in a stock receiver assuming that you gun is already reliable. If it isn't or you have an after market receiver then maybe the Kidd bolt would be beneficial.
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                              Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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