AK optic thread.

[meaty-btz]

Lucky buy! I am on the hunt for OKP-7, but everyone wants too damn much for them, for the same price I can get something more modern and better.

Anything and everything AK optic related.
Photo, reference and discussion.

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This is my second conversion of Russian reflex sight to AK side mount.
(First one is here:)
This is old reflex sight that was made in late 80's and early 90's. There's some rumors that it was even used in Soviet Afghan war and Chechnya. The sight is very straight forward (in adjustment) and very simple, it probably predates most if not all reflex/holographic sight on the market. It was only made in dovetail mount but conversion isn't all that difficult and it was advertise to handle 7.62 recoil.
Contrary to some internet nonsense from ignorant individuals about this sight, construction of this optic I'd say is excellent + even when comparing it to newer similar modern day optics. It was made in old optic factory that manufactured high quality optics for military and civilian market (camera lenses on civilian side).
Anyway enough with history, this is how I bought it on Ebay for $40 (I think). Someone wasn't that bright and decided to paint it glossy black. Bad idea as all that gloss reflects on the projectors window.
Underside.


Top with widow removed/unscrewed.



Removing rear panel, access to electronics.
Very simply designed, adjustment brightness control ring.

LED

[FiveSeven]

OKP-7, who even sells it. They never exported any, I guess Russians on Ebay can sell them. I have yet to see one for sale.

[meaty-btz]

OKP-7, who even sells it. They never exported any, I guess Russians on Ebay can sell them. I have yet to see one for sale.

There was a Russian selling them for a while. Seems to have stopped though.

But in general all the Russian optics are way over-priced. Good for a collector or for authentic AK setups but domestic and chinese imported sights are significantly cheaper. You got a smashing deal on your rebuild.

[FiveSeven]

There was a Russian selling them for a while. Seems to have stopped though.

But in general all the Russian optics are way over-priced. Good for a collector or for authentic AK setups but domestic and chinese imported sights are significantly cheaper. You got a smashing deal on your rebuild.

I believe that for to long they were under-priced actually. It's just finally they caught up somewhat to their actual worth. IMO, they are not any worse than western originated optics and in some cases superior. Obzor for example is better than any Trijicon or anything else in my inventory including Aimpoint and Eotech. They are all fine but imo Obzor is just so much more user friendly, cooler and better built.
You get what you pay for, I have yet to see a Chinese optic/sight that come even close to anything Russian made.

[meaty-btz]

I believe that for to long they were under-priced actually. It's just finally they caught up somewhat to their actual worth. IMO, they are not any worse than western originated optics and in some cases superior. Obzor for example is better than any Trijicon or anything else in my inventory including Aimpoint and Eotech. They are all fine but imo Obzor is just so much more user friendly, cooler and better built.
You get what you pay for, I have yet to see a Chinese optic/sight that come even close to anything Russian made.

I agree completely.. I am just too cheap for my own good.

What really got when I first was researching the russian optics in general was their different reticules (vs western ones).

I know everyone here seems to love dots.. I don't. My mind does not work well to focusing on a dot. I prefer a chevron or a chevron with bars. I find that I pick it up very quickly and more instinctively place the peak on the target.

I couldn't find anything western that had a reticule that I liked. Always dots, dots with rings.. or dots and cross hairs.

There are only a few designs I pick up fast.. a classic mil-dot crosshair, a classic euro style chevron with bars, or the ones you showed above. Guess I will need to find another gray market russian optic provider.

There is some sight called depotmilitary that is pegging my sketchy meter that claims to have OKP-7s for 750.. but.. sketchy meter is rarely wrong.

[FiveSeven]

I'm the same as you, dots are O.K but range-finding reticules and chevrons are much better suited for both fast follow-up and longer range precise shots.
I installed Trijicon-Tri power (TX30) in a low profile Russian mount, it co witnesses with irons and it's chevron vs a dot, very good set up, although I'm skeptical of it's large fiber optic being on top and exposure to chemicals etc. (I'll post a few photos when I get a chance).
The sight that they have looks like it comes with it's proprietary mounting plate that needs to be attached/drilled to the rifles receiver. That price is a bit high for what it is.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Question: I mounted a Vortex Sparc on a MI AK side mount on the lowest profile mount that came in the box with the Sparc. It still sits much higher than the sights. How does one get these to shoot at the same point of aim as with the factory irons (WASR- 10)?

[FiveSeven]

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MI 30mm or rail? Can you post a photo?
I've tried more that a few Midwest Industries mounts and all of them were offset to the right, not centered over the bore. I managed to work out and keep a railed version with PSO type scope and sold the others.
It's interesting that all of the video reviews of them, no one mentions this one big problem.
This is true to several different MI mounts I've tried. A big design flaw IMO, It's unfortunate that they overlooked something so obvious. If anything, if it was offset to the left instead of right I would not even say anything.
This is what I'm talking about. In their 30mm co-witness mount it's a definitely a bigger issue. On this particular one I had to file/shave off some material from the mount so it wouldn't rub on the dust cover.

[FiveSeven]

Trijicon Tri-power TX30, Russian PK-01-V mount.

[meaty-btz]

Very clear, but I really don't like the tube-type Red Dots. I'd rather have an open design one.

The MSE ACQ currently tops my list for RDS.. just wish it had a chevron..

I know the melprolight 21 has the chevron setup but it's window is smaller than the MSE ACQ.. but it is about 300 cheaper than the MSE.

[FiveSeven]

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It's O.K, kind a cheap plasticky looking imo but I don't have any experience to say anything good or bad, it does seem as it's discontinued production. If you like square type sight, EoTech is probably the best.

[meaty-btz]

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It's O.K, kind a cheap plasticky looking imo but I don't have any experience to say anything good or bad, it does seem as it's discontinued production. If you like square type sight, EoTech is probably the best.

Oddly enough, I sorta trust the Melprolight because it was actually used on the Galil ak pattern rifle by Israeli forces so it can't be "THAT" bad.

[PrimaryArms]

AK optic thread.





500 yards!

http://youtu.be/aGNBuxqk3ng

This will be here soon! ACSS 7.62x39

-Dimitri

[FiveSeven]

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Nice, I'd be getting one for sure. Hopefully there's no issues with it as it was with previous model.

[PrimaryArms]

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Nice, I'd be getting one for sure. Hopefully there's no issues with it as it was with previous model.

The 4x prism is a tank the 5.56 version is solid. Its the same proven optic just set for 7.62x39

-Dimitri