Scope for Ar10 type rifle in .308

[lavey29]

I am planning on buying an AR 10 type rifle in 7.62/308 cal. I want to scope it for all around shooting from say 50 out to 800. I was thinking about a variable in 1-6x or even 8x or should I be looking more at just high magnification range? Budget of around $1500. Thanks for the input.

[FMJBT]

Bushnell SMRS 1.65X24 SFP. Goes down to 1X for up close, and 6.5X should be enough to get you solid hits on torso sized targets out to 800 yards depending on how much precision you need. The BTR-2 reticle has 10 mils of hashmarks for holdovers, which is enough to get many flavors of 308 out to 1000 yards:

http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/elite-tactical/smrs-1-6-5x-24mm-illuminated-btr-1-sfp

$1120.63 here:

http://www.thedigitaloasis.com/BUS-ELITE-TACT-1-65X24-BTR-2-Bushnell-ET1624J_p_18044.html

[lavey29]

Don't know anything about it but will research it. Thanks for the suggestion. Do you recommend mil over moa when looking for a scope and how about first versus second focal plane?

[PrimaryArms]

Coming next month $250 there is Also a 4-14xFFP DMR is the works

Dimitri

[lavey29]

Thanks for the input Dimitri. I have always received good service and fast shipping from PA.

[FMJBT]

Don't know anything about it but will research it. Thanks for the suggestion. Do you recommend mil over moa when looking for a scope and how about first versus second focal plane?

I prefer mil over moa simply due to it being easier for me to do the math in my head. I also tend to favor FFP scopes, but my limited experience with FFP scopes that have a very wide magnification range (like 1-6X) shows that the reticle will typically lose some of it's effectiveness at one end of the spectrum. Reticles designed to be used more at the low end 1X setting get bloated at 6X and cover up a lot of the target. On the flip side, reticles designed for use at 6X tend to be extremely thin and hard to pick out at 1X. Reviews of the Bushnell 1-6.5X, which is available in both SFP and FFP, tend to agree with this. The majority of reviews I've read on this scope heavily favor the SFP version.

The Primary Arms scope is another option worth looking into. I din't really think about it as it's BDC is primarily designed for a 5.56. 5.56 and 308 hold very similar trajectories out to around 500 yards.

[PrimaryArms]

I prefer mil over moa simply due to it being easier for me to do the math in my head. I also tend to favor FFP scopes, but my limited experience with FFP scopes that have a very wide magnification range (like 1-6X) shows that the reticle will typically lose some of it's effectiveness at one end of the spectrum. Reticles designed to be used more at the low end 1X setting get bloated at 6X and cover up a lot of the target. On the flip side, reticles designed for use at 6X tend to be extremely thin and hard to pick out at 1X. Reviews of the Bushnell 1-6.5X, which is available in both SFP and FFP, tend to agree with this. The majority of reviews I've read on this scope heavily favor the SFP version.

The Primary Arms scope is another option worth looking into. I din't really think about it as it's BDC is primarily designed for a 5.56. 5.56 and 308 hold very similar trajectories out to around 500 yards.

168SMK and M80 good out to 700 yards
Its also premiled or auto ranged so no need to run data turn turrets. There is a .308 version coming for a 4-14FFp but a while out



Dimitri

[em9sredbeam]

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[Kestryll]

there is Also a 4-14xFFP DMR is the works

Dimitri

Oh crap, now I need to know about this!!

[lavey29]

I prefer mil over moa simply due to it being easier for me to do the math in my head. I also tend to favor FFP scopes, but my limited experience with FFP scopes that have a very wide magnification range (like 1-6X) shows that the reticle will typically lose some of it's effectiveness at one end of the spectrum. Reticles designed to be used more at the low end 1X setting get bloated at 6X and cover up a lot of the target. On the flip side, reticles designed for use at 6X tend to be extremely thin and hard to pick out at 1X. Reviews of the Bushnell 1-6.5X, which is available in both SFP and FFP, tend to agree with this. The majority of reviews I've read on this scope heavily favor the SFP version.

The Primary Arms scope is another option worth looking into. I din't really think about it as it's BDC is primarily designed for a 5.56. 5.56 and 308 hold very similar trajectories out to around 500 yards.

Good info thanks. I am a novice with some of this stuff. Used to red dots and fixed 3 or 4x scopes with built in BDC for my 556. Longer range stuff in 308 will be new territory and I want to get a good varaiable power optic that I can practice with and learn to use effectively at varying distances

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I am planning on buying an AR 10 type rifle in 7.62/308 cal. I want to scope it for all around shooting from say 50 out to 800. I was thinking about a variable in 1-6x or even 8x or should I be looking more at just high magnification range? Budget of around $1500. Thanks for the input.

$1500 just for the scope budget? Good grief.. high roller here!

[lavey29]

$1500 just for the scope budget? Good grief.. high roller here!

LOL,,,have you seen all the stuff I have been selling here to get the $1500

[lavey29]

What do you guys think of Leupold Mark 6 1-6x or Nightforce 2.5-10x ?

[LBDamned]

Weaver tactical 3-15x50 is ridiculously overlooked!

beats the snot out of Vortex 4-16x50 (sorry Vortex fans, but that scope sux! - yes I know, 6-24x50 is supposedly better)

Weaver glass is uncommonly clear (made in Japan) and with FFP and illumination - at its price-point, its really, REALLY hard to beat!

Another great look is Bushnell Tactical 2.5-16x42... it is SFP, the magnification range and extremely clear glass is great for AR10. I recently replaced this scope on my M&P10 with the Weaver mentioned above. Glass clarity is comparable (exceptionally good!) - but I prefer FFP... willing to sell the 2.5-16x42 if interested.

I also recently acquired Bushnell 6-24x50 (for 308 bolt gun - too much for AR10 imo)... the glass is also exceptional for the price - however, it's the illuminated mil dot version and I subsequently bought the G2DMR version... so, selling the illuminated mil-dot (great for hunting rifle) - if interested.

Sorry if it seems like an infomercial - but after shyteloads of research, these are all exceptional bang for buck scopes... the one competitor left out is Vortex... I have a 1-4x24 that I am relatively happy with (illumination isn't great - sent it in - they said it's fine)... but 24mm glass is what it is (regardless of brand)... According to "reliable" reviews, the 6-24x50 is good... I can tell you first-hand, the 4-16x50 is crap.

Clearly there is Nightforce (many say over-rated - I shot a 338 Lapua with it, meh)... SWFA has it's following - and being combat worthy, they are hard to ignore... but bang for buck, Weaver Tactical and Bushnell Tactical are very hard to beat.

YMMV (not likely though).

[lavey29]

Thanks for sharing the info. I will do some research on the optics you mentioned.